Talk:Miranda class

Hi 8of5. I have to question your (now corrected) reference to the Miranda-class TMP refit being in the 2280s. The early scripts and the novelisation of Star Trek II have the Reliant being either thought of or referred to (respectively) as "an old bucket" of a ship. Now, by mu lights, being at most 5 years old doesn't make a ship an "old bucket". I'm assuming you got that reference from the Starship Spotter book, but if it doesn't specifically state that (you'll have to tell me as I don't have it) we should move that refit date back to the 2270s. My sourcebook (Todd Allan Guenther's "Ships of the Star Fleet") have the Avenger-class (the original fanon designation for the Reliant's class) being converted from 2272 and re-commissioned from 2275. The "Miranda Class Cruiser General Plans" by Michael C. Rupprecht & Alex Rosenzweig have the Miranda being commissioned on the 19th December 2283 (as I have on the USS Miranda page), but he had that late date to continue to honour the fanon Avenger class. In my own Star Trek Universe, I have no Avenger class and the Miranda-class ships being converted soon after the Enterprise--which was the first ever ship to get this TMP refit according to Ships of the Star Fleet.