User talk:GusF/Archive 3

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 * Gus, i did place a support for your previous submission for admin... i have been part time for a while now, but intend to return full time, so i do apologize that i missed out on this task back when it would have been timely... -- Captain MKB 01:49, April 11, 2015 (UTC)

Timelines vs. realities
Hi Gus, just wondering what the reasoning is behind the separation of 'timelines' versus 'realities' in articles like Jean-Luc Picard?

I ask because, by definition, a 'timeline' is in fact a 'reality'. They're the same thing, so I don't see the need to separate them as you've done -- they belong in the same subsection -- Captain MKB 01:09, May 14, 2016 (UTC)


 * Please respond here:

Well, an alternate timeline is a version of the primary universe that has been altered whereas an alternate reality is a parallel universe which is separate from the primary universe so they are distinguished on that basis. --GusF (talk) 08:06, May 14, 2016 (UTC)


 * It's kind of a circular definition, and I'm not sure we have that information about enough of these subjects these subjects to perform proper sorting though -- for example, we have timelines without clear points of divergence, but shouldn't necessarily sort them as realities? And by your own admission, the alternate 'reality' of the new Star Trek is actually a timeline. Basically, Canon Star Trek apparently doesnt share your definition. I don't think we should be using a definition that a user (you) (apparently) formulated yourself, without a Trek source -- we should be using the definitions distinguished from Star Trek.


 * I'd like to ask that you stop undoing my edits which placed these in a unified subsection. -- Captain MKB 13:54, May 14, 2016 (UTC)


 * Okay. --GusF (talk) 13:56, May 14, 2016 (UTC)


 * If you did want to discuss how Memory Beta approaches these topics, that would be fine. At this point I just dont understand the logic of how you do the sorting, based on your explanation. -- Captain MKB 13:59, May 14, 2016 (UTC)


 * To elucidate on my earlier explanation then, I did not formulate the distinction myself. I was relying on Memory Alpha which does indeed distinguish between alternate timeline (referring to a version of the primary universe has been altered through time travel) and quantum reality (otherwise known as alternate reality, which are more in the line of parallel universe since they exist separately from the primary universe as was established in the canon Star Trek ). I figured that Memory Alpha's template was a pretty good one to follow. --GusF (talk) 14:08, May 14, 2016 (UTC)


 * On further investigation, I realised that misremembered the manner in which such matters are organised on Memory Alpha. Never mind. I'll leave them in the one section from now on. --GusF (talk) 16:45, May 14, 2016 (UTC)