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Hi all

I've started the dialogue with Fandom regarding issues with the new version of the wiki software they've inflicted upon us. We recognize it's a huge change from normal editing, and we appreciate difficulties. We need to give a full accounting to the site of the difficulties we're going through, so please consider this an open dialogue for starting the process of convincing the Fandom people that we need support, with awareness of the issues we are facing that are interfering with the normal editing process. -- captainmike Site-logo.png 00:01, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing it up. There's one positive change so far - when clicking Source Editor, the categories are now included in the edit. Where previously you had to open the Visual Editor first. But: when uploading a new image, it includes the superfluous "Summary" statement again. Kind regards, -- Markonian 12:42, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Two source editors and a visual editor[]

Apparently one of the bloats i've been encountering is that i was set one the wrong source editor - very confusing that there are two. Check your settings an thank you to everyone who suggested i change it, i was very surprised to find my setting had reverted to a different one from what i wanted. Check your preferences

On the topic of the 'visual editor' - it was trash before and it is trash now. don't use it. i don't want to make a unilateral decision without discussion, but choosing an enforcement level of wiki-wide prohibition from using the visual editor is something i'd like to explore. certainly people using it as a crutch and not learning good editing hygiene could be given a wakeup call if we disabled or reverted problematic edits (the source editor introduces preformatted code blocks into articles, much of it unnecessary -- rather than weeding through, a terrible admin task if there ever was one, we could escalate reversions and challenge the user to re-do their edits themselves, without the problematic code blocks the visual edit adds). feel free to discuss -- captainmike Site-logo.png 00:40, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Sidebar infobox captions no longer support links[]

I'm not certain i want to waste Fandom's time with ticketing this one, because its not something we need, but apparently after new edits the way the info is cached leads to any linked text in the sidebar infobox captions to simply disappear. I think it would be a major cross-wiki editing project to edit every caption, another solution is to simply delete that parameter and let them all go away (i'm a proponent of minimizing info in sidebars and a caption that says 'this is a picture of the enterprise' is idiotic and belongs in alt text anyway) feel free to discuss -- captainmike Site-logo.png 00:40, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Comic book infobox cover credits are also afflicted, sometimes. Credits display in "The Empire Man!" but disappear in "The Brain-Damaged Planet" in both Firefox and Chrome. Vexing! --Meacott (talk) 22:43, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

The grasp i have on the issue is that pages that were saved using the old site platform will continue to display their links in the caption. however, once any minor edit is made to the page using the new platform, the caption links will fail to display as the page is re-saved. it's obviously a capability that has been edited out of the site, but i'm not sure how to re-add it, nor am i confident that fandom management can offer a solution -- *looks around* i don't see them coming to help. -- captainmike Site-logo.png 01:57, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

The captions seem to be functioning now. You added a new one, and it displayed! -- Meacott (talk) 00:48, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
It's great news, although i have gone ahead and deleted a few to fix the way they display. we'll have to restore them, which is a chore - but i'm glad the site is improving
Overall, i'm seeing features come back but there are still some rough spots. the autocomplete for links doesnt seem to want to work half the time, and recent changes takes forever to load and sometimes causes browser hang. but at least we are able to edit and the site's aesthetic is not crippled. -- captainmike Site-logo.png 17:11, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
another user brought up a nonfunctional 'create' box in our ten-forward forum - i noticed the roster of discussions there have 'lost' some of the info (such as the 'last editor' column).. i just did some minor test edits and i can see that that part will function adequately (it will categorize and annotate the editor for NEW edits made after the UCP), but the box to insert the ten-forward code is still going to need some tweaking to work again. i'll have to look for it to find out where it is saved -- captainmike Site-logo.png 17:44, 6 December 2020 (UTC)