Forum:Voyages of... pages

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The three divided histories of the original Enterprise make sense, it has a huge history. But is it maybe unrequited for the other series ships. The USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-E) page has a comprehensive history on one page, and it works, maybe just having the adventures at a glance box at the bottom of the other Enterprise's, Voyager, Defiant and DS9 would be enough and the histories could just be kept on the existing ship pages just as comprehensively as they might be on the voyages of pages. -- 8of5 20:32, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree that pages such as USS Enterprise (NCC-1701), USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-D), and USS Voyager (NCC-74656) should be fairly standardized but that right now they aren't. I have just begun working on the Voyager page but I don't know what the ultimate goal is. For example, should the history portion seek to be comprehensive including canon and non-canon like the Voyager page is trying to be? Comprehensive with respect to just non-canon like Voyages of the USS Enterprise (NCC-1701) (2264 to 2270)? Only include a few important incidents? As for the "adventures at a glance" box, I assume that should include everything. But in what format? The pages now are each different. Some include stardates if available (which I like) and Deep Space 9 doesn't even include "episode", "novel", etc. I think that references should be included and I think it looks better unlinked (like the 2264-2270 page) but linking looks fine too. Also, are specific section headings like "Chapter 12" needed for works in multiple timeframes? If they are in multiple timeframes, do we cite it multiple times like in the Chronology? I think these pages are important enough to the wiki that they are worth improving and worth discussing how we want them to look in the end. Jdvelasc 01:44, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I think Voyages of the USS Enterprise (NCC-1701) (2264 to 2270) and the USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-E) are the best so far, but both need work as do the others this page talks of.

For the article segment I think the 1071 five-year mission layout is spot on, by year then headed by stardate if know. For this segment I think only canon information which is required knowledge for non-canon on the page and very major events should be noted, and it must also be relative to the ship not the adventures of the crew (not that they don’t go hand in hand).

For the mission logs I'd go:

• stardate: Title (series format) - subdivide if required

And I'd say don't link the series and format in the mission log listing, and do list canon title there too. --8of5 02:53, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Since no one else has responded, I will do as 8of5 suggests. A few more nitpicky questions - right now in the Voyager Mission logs, I list things such as -- *Strange New Worlds I: "Fiction" (VOY Short story) -- I like the SNW heading, but this could be deleted. Right now I don't list the book numbers like "(VOY novel #14)" but of course I could easily do that. There is also the question of what to do with alternate timelines. Just place them right in the mix - maybe try to make a note of where they come from? And does anyone like the mini-edit boxes that allow users to edit say just the "2372" portion of the mission logs? This is how it is currently done on the Deep Space 9 page. I believe this should just about determine exactly how the Mission Logs (or should it be "Adventures at a Glance"?) should look. Jdvelasc 22:35, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

I'd say yes for noting the anthology of miniseries first, so like this:

• stardate: Miniseries: Title (series format) - subdivide if required (alternate timeline)

With the last section used to note alternate timelines, flashbacks, holodeck reacreations, etc. As for using subheadings in the mission logs section, I'd say yes, it does make the contents list abit long at the top but is handy not to have to scroll through, another option could be to break the whole list up by year into seperate boxes, which just taking what is currently on the DS9 page looks like this:

Mission Logs

2369

• A Stitch in Time - Part Three: Chapters 3; 5
• Inferno - Cardassian withdrawl from Terok Nor
• The Fall of Terok Nor - Chapter 1
• Emissary
• "Ha'mara"
• "Past Prologue"
• "A Man Alone"
• The Siege
• "Babel"
• "Captive Pursuit"
• "Q-Less"
• "Dax"
• "The Passenger"
• "Move Along Home"
• "The Nagus"
• "Vortex"
• Bloodletter
• "Battle Lines"
• Warped
• "The Storyteller"
• "Progress"
• "If Wishes Were Horses"
• "The Forsaken"
• "Dramatis Personae"
• "Duet"
• "In the Hands of the Prophets"

2370

• Warchild
• "The Homecoming"
• "The Circle"
• "The Siege"
• "Invasive Procedures"
• The Big Game
• "Cardassians"
• "Melora"
• Fallen Heroes
• "Rules of Acquisition"
• "Necessary Evil"
• "Second Sight"
• Devil in the Sky
• "Sanctuary"
• "Rivals"
• "The Alternate"
• "Armageddon Game"
• "Whispers"
• "Paradise"
• "Shadowplay"
• "Playing God"
• "Profit and Loss"
• "Blood Oath"
• "The Maquis, Part I"
• "The Maquis, Part II"
• Antimatter
• "The Wire"
• "Crossover"
• "The Collaborator"
• "Tribunal"
• The Second Artifact
• "The Jem'Hadar"

2371

• "The Search"
• Proud Helios
• Valhalla
• Betrayal
• "The House of Quark"
• "Equilibrium"
• "Second Skin"
• "The Abandoned"
• "Civil Defense"
• "Meridian"
• "Defiant"
• "Fascination"
• The Laertian Gamble
• "Past Tense"
• "Life Support"
• "Heart of Stone"
• "Destiny"
• "Prophet Motive"
• "Visionary"
• "Distant Voices"
• "Through the Looking Glass"
• "Improbable Cause"
• "The Die is Cast"
• "Explorers"
• "Family Business"
• "Shakaar"
• "Facets"
• The Long Night
• "The Adversary"
• Station Rage
• Objective: Bajor
• Time's Enemy
• Saratoga

2372

• Wrath of the Prophets
• The Way of the Warrior
• "The Visitor"
• The Tempest
• "Hippocratic Oath"
• "Broken Oaths"
• "Indiscretion"
• "Rejoined"
• "Starship Down"
• "Little Green Men"
• "The Sword of Kahless"
• "Our Man Bashir"
• "Homefront"
• "Paradise Lost"
• "Reflections"
• Armageddon Sky
• "Crossfire"
• "Return to Grace"
• The Heart of the Warrior
• "Sons of Mogh"
• "Bar Association"
• Trial by Error
• "Accession"
• "Rules of Engagement"
• "Hard Time"
• "Shattered Mirror"
• "The Muse"
• "For the Cause"
• The 34th Rule
• "To the Death"
• "The Quickening"
• "Body Parts"
• "Broken Link"

2373

• "Apocalypse Rising"
• "The Ship"
• "Looking for par'Mach in All the Wrong Places"
• "...Nor the Battle to the Strong"
• "The Assignment"
• Honor Bound
• "Trials and Tribble-ations"
• "Let He Who Is Without Sin..."
• Vengeance
• "Things Past"
• "The Ascent"
• The Mist [flashback]
• "Rapture"
• "The Darkness and the Light"
• "The Begotten"
• "For the Uniform"
• "In Purgatory's Shadow"
• "By Inferno's Light"
• The Badlands, Book Two
• The Conquered
• The Courageous
• The Liberated
• "Doctor Bashir, I Presume?"
• "A Simple Investigation"
• "Business as Usual"
• "Ties of Blood and Water"
• "Ferengi Love Songs"
• "Soldiers of the Empire"
• "Children of Time"
• "Blaze of Glory"
• "Empok Nor"
• "In the Cards"
• "Call to Arms"

2374

• "A Time to Stand"
• "Rocks and Shoals"
• "Sons and Daughters"
• "Behind the Lines"
• "Favor the Bold"
• "Sacrifice of Angels"
• "You are Cordially Invited..."
• "Resurrection"
• "Statistical Probabilities"
• "The Magnificent Ferengi"
• "Waltz"
• "Who Mourns for Morn?"
• "Far Beyond the Stars"
• "One Little Ship"
• "Honor Among Thieves"
• "Change of Heart"
• "Wrongs Darker Than Death or Night"
• "Inquisition"
• "In the Pale Moonlight"
• Hollow Men
• "His Way"
• "The Reckoning"
• "Valiant"
• "Profit and Lace"
• "Time's Orphan"
• "The Sound of Her Voice"
• Millennium
• "Tears of the Prophets"

2375

• "Image in the Sand"
• "Shadows and Symbols"
• "Afterimage"
• "Take Me Out to the Holosuite"
• "Chrysalis"
• "Treachery, Faith, and the Great River"
• "Once More Unto the Breach"
• "The Siege of AR-558"
• "Covenant"
• "It's Only a Paper Moon"
• "Prodigal Daughter"
• "The Emperor's New Cloak"
• "Field of Fire"
• "Chimera"
• "Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang"
• "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges"
• "Penumbra"
• "'Til Death Do Us Part"
• "Strange Bedfellows"
• "The Changing Face of Evil"
• "When It Rains..."
• "Tacking Into the Wind"
• "Extreme Measures"
• "The Dogs of War"
• What You Leave Behind

2376

• The Left Hand of Destiny
• "... and straight on 'til morning"
• N-Vector
• Avatar
• Abyss
• Demons of Air and Darkness
• "Horn and Ivory"
• Twilight
• This Gray Spirit
• Cathedral
• Lesser Evil
• Rising Son
• Unity
• "Trill: Unjoined"
• "Bajor: Fragments and Omens"
• "Andor: Paradigm"
• "Ferenginar: Satisfaction is Not Guaranteed"
• "Cardassia: The Lotus Flower"
• "The Dominion: Olympus Descending"

2377

• Warpath
• Fearful Symmetry

Quite long, but does give the scroll wheel a rest. -- 8of5 23:32, 17 February 2007 (UTC)