This year doesn't necessarily mark first contact with the Cardassian Union. It does mark the first formal diplomatic interaction, but there are indications of prior contact -- for instance the exiled Cardassian poet who lived on Vulcan when Tobin Dax could meet him (22nd century).--Emperorkalan 22:38, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
- Depends on how you define "first contact," I suppose. For my money, for instance, the encounter between the NX-01 and the Ferengi in 2152 doesn't count as first contact with the Ferengi; the encounter between the NCC-1701-D and the Ferengi in 2364 does. But I keep seeing it referred to as first contact in 2327. -- Sci 00:45 13 May 2006 UTC
- Where are you "seeing it referred to" that way? --Chops 02:41, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- You're right, I'm misremembering the Thelian article. Further, I could swear that there was a reference to 2327 being the year of first contact with the Cardassian Union in one of the Titan books, but I can't find any of my copies at the moment. So take my memory as you will. -- Sci 05:04 14 May 2006 UTC
- I'm not questioning the veracity, just probing a bit. --Chops 05:19, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- That's good, because I am! ;) -- Sci 05:26 14 May 2006 UTC
- Even so, it is a fair interpretation. That's why I questioned it here rather than "correcting" it directly. Come to think of it, that's how the Federation defines it too: in the TNG episode "First Contact", they'd obviously encountered that planet-bound race much earlier, but "first contact" was made when Picard met the scientist and her president. So it's really the First Contact article that needs its definition tweaked, not this one. It refers to the start of continuous interaction (or in some cases, agreed-upon non-interaction), not isolated encounters.--Emperorkalan 05:36, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- I disagree. Yes, in the episode "First Contact", the Feds knew about the aliens, but the aliens didn't know about the Feds. Also, there's a line in the movie Fist Contact to the effect that the Vulcan surveying party knew full well of life on Earth (see also ENT: "Carbon Creek"), but it was Cochrane's warp flight that convinced them to formally contact humanity.
My two cents: the definition of first contact has to be an open contact acknowledged by both parties. --70.94.229.133 07:00, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- Who were you disagreeing with? That's what I said, wasn't it?--Emperorkalan 17:01, 14 May 2006 (UTC)