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I would argue very strongly that nothing that was said and done on Enrterprise flatly contradicts anything thats been said and done in the lit.

The Lit specifically stated (even before Enterprise started exploring the Andorians) that Andorians tend to keep mum about that aspect of their culture, just like Vulcans with Pon Farr and Trills with Symionts, and accept two-gendered pro-nouns for the sake of simplicity and secrecy. That Shran didn't mention any other bond-mates to Archer would be consistant with this secrecy. --Turtletrekker 23:14, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Also, the page states that each gender carries a quarter of the genetic material necessary to conceive, but then that the zhen does not contribute genetically. It can't be both. -- lvsxy808 14:34, 16 Oct 2007

Each 'male' gender carries one quarter, equaling half. 114.179.169.145 05:37, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
Yes, that is understood but the article says, "[then] zhen does not contribute genetically to offspring", which means only one of the two 'female' genders contributes genetically. So the shen either contributes 50% or 33% (and then the statement regarding the males contributing 25% is mathematically incorrect). Therefore, either the zhen does contribute genetically or the amounts attributed to the remaining genders is a mistake.--173.79.195.221 15:29, March 19, 2017 (UTC)
So, does the shen contribute one-half or one-third? The page was just changed today and I was unsure which version was correct. --Khajidha (talk) 14:09, June 28, 2018 (UTC)

Sex and gender distinction[]

I'm not sure if there is an in-literature source for preferring the term 'genders' over 'sexes' to describe the topic, but I reviewed the wikipedia article sex and gender distinctionWP and found the current naming convention move to be valid - the fact that the move was undone was incorrect and i have reverted that change, and am considering a protection.

I realize a number of articles link to the other name through a redirect, but that's not a reason to undo a valid move. redirects are normal and useful. -- captainmike Wiki-wordmark 12:13, March 3, 2018 (UTC)

Unsourced statement[]

"The zhen does not contribute genetically to offspring."

I can't find any source for this statement and it appears to be incorrect given that The Higher Frontier establishes that Thelin th'Valrass is one-quarter Aenar on his zhavey's side. Gilgamesh de Uruk (talk) 13:22, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

I just found a source: A Ceremony of Losses page 3. I'll make a note of this contradiction. Gilgamesh de Uruk (talk) 13:29, 30 November 2022 (UTC)