The articles states that the Elachi are "affiliated" with the lifeforms from "Schisms" and used that episode as a reference. But obviously, the connection is not made in "Schisms" since the Elachi didn't appear until "Silent Enemy" and weren't named until STO. What is the source for the connection between the two species? Or is it just speculation based on the clicking noises they make and their propensity for close encounter-style abductions? --TimPendragon (talk) 10:54, September 13, 2013 (UTC)
- The connection is made in-game, e.g. when a Cardassian victim is pulled into subspace from his bed, or the design of Elachi lab tables. I wouldn't be able to cite a specific mission for the former occurence, though. The connection between the Elachi and the schismatic aliens is made retroactively and note in "Schisms" itself. Sorry for not properly citing. We could remove the reference until I find a proper reference. –-- Markonian 21:51, September 13, 2013 (UTC)
- Removed the reference. The Dyson sphere arc in STO dubs the "Schism" aliens the Solanae. --StarSword (talk) 16:30, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
CLB's said before that his take on the Gamma Vertians isn't meant to be taken as applying to the Elachi from STO, but rather an alternate interpretation of the same race. Given that, should they really be combined together in this way? Or should maybe the RotF material be divided from the STO material as two distinct interpretations? --Idran (talk) 21:07, December 10, 2014 (UTC)
- We know what the Vertians are like in the 22nd century, and we know what the Elachi are like in the 25th. We don't know how they went from A to B, and the two sources are not necessarily contradicting each other. The Elachi operate from subspace, but that doesn't mean they're native to it. For all we know, the Elachi could be a rogue faction of the peaceful Vertians. In short, we could differentiate with time labels, 22nd/25th century, rather than novel vs. STO timeline, as a suggestion. -- Markonian 23:09, December 10, 2014 (UTC)
- I added the note. Easy to differentiate as they have different names and home worlds/realms.
- One thing i don't like is the behind the scenes name Shroomies. if it has never been used 'in continuity' then it is better off forgotten. Also, the ST Encyc vol4 supposedly names them Kovaalans. not sure if it is in the Encyclopedia's 'background' notes which would make it speculation, or if the volume says it definitively 'in continuity' which we would have to incorporate - captainmike
18:18, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- It's not in a background note. Star Trek Encyclopedia Kovaalan search results
- "Shroomies" was mentioned in A Choice of Futures page 88:
- Trip snapped his fingers. "Shroomies! That's it."
- She stared at him. "I beg your pardon?"
- "That's what the security guys called those aliens. 'Cause their heads looked kinda like mushrooms, you know?"
- "A very juveline slur," she observed.
- Shroomies is also the name used in Star Trek Timelines. Gilgamesh de Uruk (talk) 01:10, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- As i said, in that case, it should be expanded into the article -- captainmike 02:03, 11 March 2024 (UTC)