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Is 88 the correct distance? -- Admiral Yates 13:07, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

88.2 but humans are prone to inaccuracy.
Please don't revert changes unless you actually know the reason. Asking the question without deleting the other user's work would have been fine. -- Captain MKB 13:08, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
LOL, just trying to be helpful, nothing came back so figured what the heck -- Admiral Yates 13:12, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
Was also watching ENT 1x25 and so far no references as to its exact distance. 90 seemed like a rough estimate, figured better safe with a rough estimate to a inaccurate exact distance. -- Admiral Yates 13:15, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
Um, LOL indeed (?) Unfortunately neither MB or Wikipedia have a central Epsilon Ceti page established yet, so we can't make a direct citation link between the two. There are a number of sources i look for stellar data that can be cited to wikipedia or to another scientific source -- Wikipedia's list of stars in Cetus, solstation, alcyone.de, etc. -- Captain MKB 13:19, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
Just out of curiosity...are you taking real world data and incorporating it into the science fiction world? just wondering. -- Admiral Yates 13:26, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
Yes. The citations are achieved how I just described - an external link to wikipedia. -- Captain MKB 13:37, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
Alrighty, i linked the wikipedia site to here and changed the distance there as well -- Admiral Yates 13:38, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Hold on, what is going on here?? The 88 light years from Earth isn't from the episode which that fact is currently cited to? But is backed up by real world information the article makes no reference to at all? Then why are we even putting this abstract fact in the article? (Who cares how far it is from Earth?) Especially when, if you look at Star Charts which gives us the system Risa is in, it is marked as between the 40 and 50 lightyears from Earth radius markers! --8of5 19:37, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

???? ok now i am confused -- Admiral Yates 21:06, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
Two dimensional thinking, Khan - those radius markers do not show actual distance between points, only planar distance. If Risa is above or below the galactic equator by even a few light years, it changes/extends the straight line distance considerably. There is no canon or licensed reference to the distance, to my knowledge, making real life knowledge the default.
BTW, where's the wikipedia cite, i thought someone said that was added? -- Captain MKB 21:23, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
ya it was except someone removed it as Vandalism: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Star_Trek_planets_%28R%E2%80%93S%29&action=history -- Admiral Yates 21:35, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
yes i tried changing it back -- Admiral Yates 21:36, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
ohhh.. i thought you meant something different. We should focus on finding a way to explain it in the background section here. -- Captain MKB 22:00, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
Hold up. You changed Wikipedia to match what it says on MB? That's not right. Wikipedia shouldn't be sourced off of Memory-Beta. All of the other listings on that page point to canon sources - episodes. Memory-Alpha lists it as "roughly 90", this was changed to 88, then Wikipedia changed to 88. You can't have cyclical citations. Someone needs to come up with an episode, novel, movie, etc citation rather than the wikis linking to each other. --Savar 23:07, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
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