How can it be claimed that the Federation is a democracy if, (to the best of my knowledge), no known character possessing Federation citizenship has every been shown to vote, to have mentioned voting in the past, or even acknowledged that an election is/has/will be/may be occuring!? 194.80.32.12 14:35, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- What's the best way to intregrate conflicting information on the location of the Fed government on Earth? Crisis on Centaurus puts it in Geneva, Articles of the Federation has most of the essential business taking place in Paris, The Final Reflection has Federa-Terra, a city built in Florida specifically as a Federation Government enclave... and doubtless there are more examples. Group all the location references in one subsection, where conflicts can be specifically addressed?--Emperorkalan 16:33, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- I wasn't aware of these contradictory novels. My inclination would be to put the stuff from the AotF in the main body of the article, since so many other novels are set in its continuity, and to put Crisis and Final Refection in their own sections, labeled "Crisis on Centarus Continuity" and "Final Reflection Continuity." But that's just me. -- Sci 03:29 27 June 2006 UTC
- Hi. Just want to tell you [my primary reason for posting today] that I'm currently gathering together all my notes on the U.F.P. and Starfleet from all the notes I've done from ten years' Trek reading, and am hoping to add them to non-wiki very soon. Incorporated amongst that are references to Facets[DS9] and Ensign Ro[TNG]. I have always known of Geneva from 'Crisis On Centaurus', but my notes on 'The Final Reflection' apparently neglected the mention of Federa-Terra. Data from 'AotF' not already from onscreen I haven't read, since the most 'modern' books I've read are 'Diplomatic Implausibility' and 'SNW VII', both several years ago. [User: Stripey].
- Again, do we know that there are separate continuities at play here -- or would that be assumption?
- Since we know from canon and non-canon that the Council meets in San Francisco (ST4, DC-TOS) and the President works in Paris (ST6, DS9, AotF), it seems entirely possible that Federation government occurs in more than one place on Earth -- meaning that there might not be three continuities at play.
- We also have Federation conferences ocurring at Antwerp in DS9, meaning there is a very real possibility we should consider, that the Federation government uses numerous locations on and around Earth for its many functions, and that none of the surces are actually "conflicting"
- Also, consider that Federa-Terra was extant in the early 23rd century, and could definitely have fallen out of use in favor of the new destinations (same goes for Geneva comapred to the 24th century locales) -- Captain M.K.B. 14:40, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- While it's certainly possible that Geneva houses some Federation government agencies, and while it's possible that Federa-Terra exists in the "Palais"-verse continuity and houses Fed gov't agencies, the problem is that Articles of the Federation very clearly establishes that the Palais de la Concorde in Paris was being used by the Federation Council and President as their capitol building in the 22nd Century (references to debates between President al-Rashid and Councillor sh'Rothress occuring in the same Federation Council Chambers, for instance). So while the other two may be used, there is a clear continuity conflict with the idea of them as capital cities... unless we presume that the were used as temporary capitals before the Palais completed construction (which had to occur at the latest during the administration of Haroun al-Rashid). -- Sci 21:05 10 MARCH 2007
The implications of transporter technology, as well as the ubiquitous secure communications, would mean that offices wouldn't necessarily need a fixed location. In essence, the whole planet could be seen as the 'capital.' Since the Federation is composed of several states, which themselves in turn have colonies and member worlds, it is entirely conceivable that there are hundreds of governmental entities and layers of bureaucracy at play. And besides, the benefits of de-centralization of power are immensely obvious. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 98.95.147.14 (talk) .
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