Welcome[edit source]

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Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Captainmike (Talk) 14:50, 2010 March 6

Hey[edit source]

Hey admiral, good work lately on filling out articles.

One thing i noticed is the inclusion of the Starfleet service record in characters with only one known assignment -- while this is very inclusive, i don't feel it's necessary in character articles unless they have more than one known assignment. otherwise, all the info in the service record is already covered in the sidebar table. -- Captain MKB 22:03, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

That makes sense. I'll remove it from the characters with only one assignment. -- Markonian 08:28, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

A total "by the way" i noticed that last year you suggested an AGT future rank insignia page, i just finished it last night: Federation Starfleet ranks (alternate future) -- Captain MKB 14:06, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much! -- Markonian 15:39, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Bolarus map[edit source]

Just letting you know, there are already existing copies of the Bolarus IX map images - i'm merging the files now, feel free to check the files listed at Worlds if you aren't sure whether some have already been uploaded -- Captain MKB 19:01, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't saw it was already there. Btw, the original map looks not so well with the caption "Bolarus IX" cut in half and the bits of LCARS at the right side of it. --Markonian 19:05, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
I do tend to prefer creating crops that obscure original publication details like captions, etc., in order to avoid detailed reproduction of the copyrighted materials -- with comic books it's unavoidable to cut up wording, but even in this case it's not completely necessary to include original captions -- i'd prefer a version either with the caption cut up or removed altogether, rather than the version with the complete frame intact. -- Captain MKB 19:09, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
I see. Shall I re-upload a version of the map with the grey frame removed? --Markonian 19:12, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sweating the little details. If not having clipped/cutoff elements is your preference, then i'd say the best choice would be to emulate the crop used on the Andoria map seen on the Worlds page. -- Captain MKB 19:53, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Sigma Iota II[edit source]

Can you upload the map of Sigma Iota II?Homesun 19:38, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Done. See File:Sigma Iota II surface map.jpg --Markonian 19:48, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Selay[edit source]

Can you also upload the map and image of planet Selay, please? Homesun 20:35, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Done. See: Selay-Decipher.jpg and Selay_surface_map.jpg. Do you need any other planet's images? --Markonian 10:33, May 13, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, for Malcor III. Homesun 20:26, May 13, 2011 (UTC)
Done. See: Malcor III-Decipher.jpg and Malcor_III_surface_map.jpg. -- Markonian 20:53, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Moving pages[edit source]

Hi, you might not realize this, but you've been improperly moving pages. If you feel a page needs to be renamed, you need to use the "rename" feature in order to properly transport the page's entire history.

When you copy and paste the content of a page to a new location, the page history doesn't move and this short changes any other contributors who happened to work on the page's history. Please use the "rename"/"move" command from now on. -- Captain MKB 12:52, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much for pointing that out. I'll use the correct command from now on. -- Markonian 13:10, May 28, 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for being open to feedback, and for all the great work you've been doing on the starship articles from all the new media releases, by the way. i appreciate being able to count on your help in expanding this wiki. -- Captain MKB 13:12, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

DTI references[edit source]

DTI is the in-universe short form for the actual Department. To properly link to the book, please use {{st|DTI}} in that slot instead, such as: {{n|{{st|DTI}}|Forgotten History}}

Thanks. -- sulfur 14:19, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

Understood. Thanks for the info and correcting my errors! ---- Markonian 06:48, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

STO exploration template[edit source]

When you edited this template to completely change its use and meaning, you broke several instances of its use. I reverted that edit and split off your new template into a new location: {{STO star clusters}} -- sulfur (talk) 12:28, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry I've something up again. When I saw the could and the number of edits to it, I thought it was a failed idea and tried to "repair" it. Thank you for cleaning my mess once again. -- Markonian 19:16, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

New articles[edit source]

Admiral Markonian, i want to thank you for your new articles in the database regarding current topics like new releases and STO. I feel that the formatting and linkages in your articles have been beneficial for the database, and have given us a lot of avenues to cross-reference topics through templates and listings, as referenced in previous notes to you regarding direction of links and citations. Thanks for generating so much new content without requiring a lot of counseling regarding the use of the database, it really is one of the things that makes this database great in that we have strong users like you generating content. -- Captain MKB 21:20, August 28, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for those kind words. To help expanding the wiki is a reward in itself but to receive acknowledgement for it is encouraging. -- -- Markonian 19:16, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

Sidebar image[edit source]

In regards to the Koloth-class sidebar image, i think it is not working. the sidebar can support a couple images at maximum, so trying to make one said image into a six-image collage really pushes the size out of bounds. could we have a gallery in the article of the images that show the specifics and maybe pick one illustrative image to go at the bottom of the sidebar? -- Captain MKB 21:54, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Star Trek mapping project[edit source]

Hey Admiral Markonian. I'm Brandon, Senior Community Manager at Wikia. We're working on a new Star Trek project as part of the Wikia Fan Studio. To give a bit of context, Fan Studio is a program where fans on Wikia can be connected with brands from the entertainment and video gaming industries. Fans get to interact with brands and share opinions that could impact final products and releases, or whatever it may be that a partner brand is working on. This project doesn't have a partner brand involved, but it will let you be part of Fan Studio and other future projects.

This Star Trek project is based around Wikia Maps, and participants will be mapping different parts of the Star Trek universe. Participants will get to help decide what we should map as well. It could be the layout of the Enterprise, or Voyager's journey through the Delta Quadrant, or even more light-hearted subjects like Captain Kirk's romantic liaisons throughout the galaxy. Whatever the participants end up deciding. The maps that the project participants create will live on Trek Initiative, plus any other community that wants to can embed them.

As an active contributor on Memory Beta, we think you'd be great for this project. Would you like to join? Let me know on my talk page. Thanks! - Brandon Rhea(talk) 23:52, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

RE the USS Brisbane[edit source]

What gives? There will be a huge story created for this minor ship, why can't it be set up here? Memory Alpha is the Canon wiki, this is the extended universe wiki --Nathanius (talk) 00:48, December 11, 2014 (UTC)

There are three major Trek wikis - Alpha for canon, Beta for officially licensed materials, and Gamma for fan-made creations. The Brisbane has only appeared in two licensed books so far, without indication of it's class. When you're creating a huge story, I suggest to incorporate it on Memory Gamma. –-- Markonian 10:08, December 11, 2014 (UTC)

Editing a page title[edit source]

Hi Admiral, I just wanted to ask you a question. I was wondering if you knew how to edit a page's title. Is that something anyone can do, or is that something only an admin can do? I'm just asking because I've noticed at least three articles that do not have the correct spelling. One is the "Koa" page, because I read the book Small World and the term "Koas" described both singularly and plurally for an individual and the entire species, with "Koa" just being their homeworld. Another is "Archenarian", with the rest of the page saying "Archernarian". And the third one was "Ba'Neth", because on the Memory Alpha wikia it was spelled "Ba'neth." I just wanted to know the ability when such a situation happens again. If you don't know that's okay, I'm just asking around because no one responded to my Talk article about the subject.--Humanoid21 (talk) 13:46, January 7, 2015 (UTC)

Greetings. You don't need to be an admin to have that ability. A page name can be corrected using the "rename" button. Is that option available to you? -- Markonian 13:55, January 7, 2015 (UTC)

I don't recall seeing that type of button anywhere, which seems to have become more confusing with the updates to the wikia. Do you know where it exactly is? Thank you for your help.--Humanoid21 (talk) 14:17, January 7, 2015 (UTC)

It's right between "history" and "follow". I have moved the pages. Thanks for letting me know! -- Markonian 14:21, January 7, 2015 (UTC)

No problem, thank you for helping out. But I'm not exactly sure where "history" and "follow" are either. I'm sorry, sometimes I'm slow at these kinds of things, even though I've been on here for a while. --Humanoid21 (talk) 14:31, January 7, 2015 (UTC)

On top of a page, right above the article title, there's a sidebar with menu options, including "edit" and "discussion". -- Markonian 14:42, January 7, 2015 (UTC)

Okay I found it, thank you for your help and have a good day. --Humanoid21 (talk) 14:58, January 7, 2015 (UTC)

Disambigs[edit source]

Please do not link directly to these. Please link to redirects with "(disambiguation)" instead. Please also remember to add them to the diambiguation list when creating them too. -- sulfur (talk) 17:18, February 14, 2015 (UTC)

I will follow your example from the USS Presidio page and add any future disambigs to the disambiguation list. -- Markonian 21:33, February 14, 2015 (UTC)

deletion[edit source]

Hi, did you know that we have a page called Memory Beta:Pages for immediate deletion? its for all deletion requests that don't require discussion. -- Captain MKB 00:17, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! I'll use that one for future fan fic and vandalism pages. -- Markonian 22:27, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

Already informing your colleagues[edit source]

Hello Admiral Markonian,

I see you have also discovered the pages with non Star Trek content that have been added by another user. I have already been trying to inform your fellow moderators as I don't want to start changing and deleting pages without permission of the administrators here.

With some of the material it is not clear if it is from Star Trek canon or the spin off material but other material definitely does not belong on Memory Beta such as the Alien, Dune, and Space Above and Beyond material. --The Dutch Ghost (talk) 01:34, August 1, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the heads-up, Ghost. I'm a regular user like you, which means I can revert vandalism in existing pages and flag new pages for immediate deletion if it is warranted. You can see how it works by checking the section right above this one, "deletion". Good job in taking action early, Ghost! -- Markonian 11:20, August 1, 2015 (UTC)

images[edit source]

Hey, so i noticed you are helping to aggressively categorize images -- using the subcategorizations i coded a ways back -- which is, on the surface at least, a good thing.

However, i am starting to become wary of it being too much of a good thing, since i spent very little time vetting the subcat process, and i have been watching for potential errors.

One thing that occurred to me is the process leading to double categorizations of the same images into many categories, which could become excessive. i have been toying with a pyramid hierarchy for determining image categorizations. For example, if the cover of Star Trek The Motion Picture is the source of an individual Kirk, Spock, Ilia and Enterprise image, theres no need to code the subcats of the cover itself -- even though they all appeara on the cover, the separaate images bear all their individual subcategorizations, and do not need to be coded to the cover.

On a smaller scale -- if we made a separate image of the Delta Flyer from the German Chakotay novel cover, we would then remove the Delta F categorizations from the Chakotay image.

Let me know if this makes sense, and hopefully we can diversify our library and keep each category looking robust without duplications. -- Captain MKB 01:18, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

Hey, this makes perfect sense. I prefer to tag a max of 10 subcats to any one image (subcat + subcat1-9), so applying a pyramidal structure is beneficial for images that show a lot of content. Removing categories to de-clutter covers sounds fine by me. Yesterday I began copying your approach to tag individual items from a picture (ships/people/planets). The pyramidal structure would be welcome for people images, because Starfleet officers begin to accumulate a load of subcats two months ago we got Humans sorted by centuries. It's easier with ships because they only need the pertinent subcats (affiliation, species (if separate), class, name (for hero/often-seen ships). -- Markonian 16:15, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
In the future it might even make sense to scale back categorization for all 'hero' subjects -- i am about to move on to the first Pocket novel that did not have Kirk on the cover - The Final Reflection - which means i have added him to the Starfleet captains image category over a dozen times -- but i am not sure how to regularize this, because he should be represented there. so no progress in making that a rule yet, it doesnt seem to have parameters i can define to disinclude him. Same for the Enterprise from the Constitution class image categ... it belongs there
Also, as we regularize this, we'll need to explain it to n0obz, so your above statements could very well be submitted for a policy page if you wish. I picked you out as a frequent categorizer, and i know that Sulfur has worked behind the scenes as always helping out the technical details, so if there's anyone else participating in the categorization, we can feel free to remind them that we're setting policy here and go over these logical points with them -- Captain MKB 02:51, August 12, 2015 (UTC)
final thought before bedtime: if an image has two heroes in it, (James T. Kirk) and (Spock), maybe just use those two categories and save all further subcatting for solo shots - Captain MKB 03:05, August 12, 2015 (UTC)
Okay. I suggest we continue with our current practices. Dealing with categorization over a span of time will teach us which practice is the most efficient one, and when we should which category or leave it out. Once we have figured out a strategy that "makes sense", we can base a policy on that. -- Markonian 20:52, August 18, 2015 (UTC)

Possible vandalism[edit source]

Hey I would like to warn you and the other people overseeing this wikia that there maybe some vandalism going on.

I just fixed the following article by undoing changes a nameless contributor did, pasting in material that did not belong here. IKS Somraw

Perhaps best to keep an eye out in case this person does more changes--The Dutch Ghost (talk) 01:56, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up! We're experiencing quite a few vandal attacks at the moment. -- Markonian 20:05, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Is this article page useful?[edit source]


I created an article for the subject 'Time warp' under the 'Time Travel' page, but I am not sure here as I think some of the properties that I ascribed to it are also listed under other entries or their own.

Right now I can not provide the sources to some of the properties but I recall them being mentioned in Trek fiction from time to time.

Could you have a look at it and tell me if it is suitable or not? I could rewrite it or it perhaps it should be deleted.--The Dutch Ghost (talk) 20:06, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

If I may interject here: Always make sure you can properly cite your sources before you create a new page on any subject. Thanks. - Bell'Orso (talk) 22:51, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

You are right, perhaps best to delete it for now. Sorry that I was a little to hasty with writing that article in advance.--The Dutch Ghost (talk) 23:22, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

changing several documents[edit source]

Hello Markonian

I have a question, I would like to expand the articles of the androids of Exo III and Exo III to incorporate and include the new information from New Visions 8.

Thing is, it kind of conflicts with an earlier written Star Trek novel 'Double Double'. From what I understand New Visions 8 takes places some time before that novel, but in that story the android manufacturing plant is disabled, making the story of 'Double Double' improbable or impossible.

What would be the best way to handle this?--The Dutch Ghost (talk) 00:16, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

Hello Dutch Ghost
The easiest way is to represent the information in chronological order, and in the "Background" section you can add a note stating that disabling the manufacturing plant is a discrepancy between New Vision 8 and Double, Double. You can also state that as a brief note in italics in the "History" section. An example can be found near the bottom of the USS Thunderchild page. Discrepancies between sources of different origin is common. -- Markonian 16:58, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

Dinasia / Dynasia / Dynassia[edit source]

There's some confusion over what the correct spelling for the planet (and the descendants of Iconian refugees who fled there) is. I myself do not play STO, whenever I edit pages relating to that game it's mostly adding links or correcting phrasing/spelling, but you seem to, and this touches on the history of the Iconians (who, from all I've seen, were featured quite heavily in that game), so I'm hoping you can help clear up the confusion. Please take a moment to weigh in here, thanks. - Bell'Orso (talk) 06:20, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

Problems with the Wiki?[edit source]

Hello Admiral Markonian, I am trying to create a new page for the latest New Visions issue but the Memory Beta Wiki acts really unusual. I copied the template of an earlier issue which I wanted to modify to include the information about the current issue but copy and paste don't work when I seek to create a page. Even when I put in some random text as a test I can't seem to delete it any more, forcing me to cancel the page.

Do you know if there have been done some changes to the wiki format that cause these problems? I will try later again but this is rather irritating--The Dutch Ghost (talk) 17:01, January 8, 2016 (UTC)

Hello Ghost, there's been no official change. Does the issue also occur when you use another browser? Kind regards, -- Markonian 12:21, January 9, 2016 (UTC)
Is it possible that you're using the newest "visual editor" which is supposed to be like a WYSIWYG editor (ie, like Word)? That doesn't let you put in template/wiki code, but rather expects you to use the button tools to do bold/italics/links/etc. -- sulfur (talk) 12:54, January 9, 2016 (UTC)

I just tried making a new page in both Firefox and Opera to see if it was something browser related.

I found out about the "visual editor" and its differences towards making or editing the source of a document so I did not include any template/wiki code in the document I tried to create. Instead I just copied the content of another page with information from an earlier issue of the series and tried to insert that with the goal of then modifying it to include all the information about the current issue. Cut and paste however does not seem to work.

When I instead insert some random letters or words the backspace button on my keyboard is no longer registered by the wiki and I am forced to cut out mistakes by highlighting and selecting it with the mouse. I did try to copy the text from the back page of the issue (writing it over, hope this is correct English) in order to create a page and the further modify it in source but then I got the message that I tried to create an empty page (despite there being text).--The Dutch Ghost (talk) 13:55, January 9, 2016 (UTC)

Does it work if you write the entry in to Word/Pages document, than create the desired page with random letters before editing the page and copypasting the document's content? -- Markonian 14:17, January 9, 2016 (UTC)
I might recommend using S:C to contact Wikia staff to inquire about the situation. Let them know the steps from here that you went through, etc. -- sulfur (talk) 14:57, January 9, 2016 (UTC)

I managed to create the new page now but it definitely did not work out in the Word/Pages document, I had to do this by creating a new page directly in source. In this regular keyboard editing does work (backspace button and such)

Oddly enough the regular Word/Pages document editing menu now does work when I tried to create a new page by clicking on a link that now does not lead to anything. Still not sure if it now was my browser causing problems or if it was the Wiki. (my computer had been running for a day now without pause and that sometimes does create unusual problems and bugs with regular functions, internet browsers and so on) Should it occur again I will first clear my browser and if necessary restart my computer, but if the problem occurs again and persists I will contact the Wikia staff to ask what could be causing it.--The Dutch Ghost (talk) 17:45, January 9, 2016 (UTC)

^ That sounds like a plan, Dutch Ghost! Sorry I had not thought of that myself - that's actually my real-life job. The computer cycles through processes during its operation and much like a Human brain needing sleep to "reset", the computer requires such a turn-off as well. Other than that, clearing browser history, closing and reopening the browser is the way to go. If the issue recurs, take screenshots if they are useful, or record a YouTube video to show the Wikia staff. Kind regards, -- Markonian 18:34, January 9, 2016 (UTC)

Assignment patches[edit source]

To answer your question "why is this still here" about why the deletion discussion was ongoing on the ship insignia article(s):

The articles did contain valid data that would be allowable for the background section of the assignment patch article and the discussion included a call for the material to be merged. it would have been inappropriate to delete the article without addressing it.

A lot of people seem to disregard the point of deletion discussions which is to break down the reasoning for deletion and apply it to tthe spirit of edits made n good faith that only partially agree with our policy.

If good faith edits and info are present, it is editor responsibility to follow up on tasks identified -- such as merging allowable content into appropriate article locations, just as much as it is editor and admin responsibility to delete that which the discussion finds to be disallowed -- Captain MKB 12:29, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification. I was overzealous when I wrote that. Kind regards, -- Markonian 13:03, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

Writing some story summaries for New Visions[edit source]

Hello Admiral Markonian, I am not sure if you are one of the owners/mderators of this Wiki but as you are the one contact I have that is responds the most frequently. I have been updating the New Visions comic pages for a while now and I am planning to continue to do so in the future as long as time allows it, but as the next issue won't be out until April I wonder if I should make a start on writing perhaps short summaries for the released comics so far as none of them have any details about the stories they are about. (several related articles such as characters and locations that appeared in the comics have been updated in the past or new pages have been created for like new created planets or concepts like Solid Space)

I need to tell that I am a little in doubt about my own English skills at the moment. Due to some personal problems I happen to be a bit forgetful about definitions, descriptions, and different types of tenses. If I should write some summaries, could someone here perhaps proof read them for me first before I update the appropriate page with this new information?

Hope to hear from you--The Dutch Ghost (talk) 23:10, February 5, 2016 (UTC)

Hello Dutch Ghost. Sorry for replying so late - I've only just returned from holidays in Scotland, and they don't do much with this "Internet" thing of ours. Anyway, pick your favorite New Visions comic and give it a go. I'm no native speaker myself but I studied English for five years. I'd be happy to see some summaries on the comics, especially because it makes it easier to reference them then. Kind regards, -- Markonian 22:07, February 19, 2016 (UTC)

Okay, I will give it a go when I feel ready to write down a summary, and I will contact you when it is online to ask if you could check if it is grammar wise correctly written.--The Dutch Ghost (talk) 22:42, February 19, 2016 (UTC)
Sounds like a plan. -- Markonian 22:42, February 20, 2016 (UTC)

Question about something Wiki related[edit source]

Hello Admiral Markonian

I have a question about something Wiki related. CaptainMike has just edited several of the images I have added to articles I made of have contributed too and added this (uncited, undescribed, unattributed)

What does that mean?

I indeed got some images online but others I made myself. Does it now mean these images will be deleted? --The Dutch Ghost (talk) 16:21, April 7, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry for not coming back earlier. Work's busy. It seems you had a fruitful discussion with CaptainMike already. If in doubt, do it like I learn things here - when adding new content, and I look at similar, pre-existing content, and copy it's style. For example, if I add a comic book image, I look what the citation of an existing comic book image looks like, copy that, and replace the bits referring to the old comic so that it fits the new comic. Kind regards, -- Markonian 13:43, April 20, 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I have done so when I finally figured it out. But it a bit frustrating for me as I had absolutely no idea what CaptainMike wanted at first and at some point it felt to me I was being accused of putting on material that was not allowed or added new texts to the wiki that for some reason did not meet with the guidelines despite doing my best of writing it as appropriate as possible. (facts, viewpoint from the real world so an summary or write up and not a fan fic)

After that mishap I had with writing an article I backed up with basically speculation rather than hard facts I have become very cautious not to repeat it but that does sometimes put me in doubt on what is useful and necessary when I create a new article or add to an existing one, and what is unnecessary and can be cut out.

I have learned a lot from studying other people's articles on the wiki but it will be a while before I learned it all and mastered it myself.

BTW, I still want to write those summaries of New Visions comics for the Wiki but I would like to do it when I am also writing the reviews for the comics on Ex Astris Scientia (I always include summaries of stories with my reviews). That way I don't have to write two separate summaries of the same stories. I hope you or someone else will want to review them and help me on improving them if needed.--The Dutch Ghost (talk) 14:28, April 20, 2016 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. Joining a Wikia team comes with a learning curve, and I started out as you did. And there are still things I'm learning, and situation where I wonder: Is this a hard fact or am I starting to speculate here? Don't be afraid to make mistakes - there are enough people who can help you fix it. And assume good faith - even if the black words on white background sound harsh, it's all about the collaborative effort. Kind regards, -- Markonian 19:55, April 20, 2016 (UTC)

Question about something Wiki related[edit source]

Hello Admiral Markonian, I have a question regarding an upcoming Star Trek comic special. Next month a photo comic adaptation of the Star Trek Pilot episode The Cage will be released. I already added the information to the New Visions overview page but I am kind of in doubt that when the issue is released and I am ready to add info about its content that I should make a separate article for a story for which already an episode article exists?

Wouldn't it be easier and more efficient just to mention in the The Cage article that a comic book version of the story also exists?

Hope to hear you thoughts on this subject.

Usually, we keep such things in one article, like episodes/movies and their novelizations. You can treat the photo comic as a "novelization". Please don't forget to sign your posts with 4x ~. Kind regards, -- Markonian 21:32, July 9, 2016 (UTC)

Oops sorry. Captain Mike already combined the two articles--The Dutch Ghost (talk) 04:23, July 10, 2016 (UTC)

No worries, Dutch Ghost. Working on a wiki includes a learning curve for everyone of us. Good that Captain Mike combined them already. Kind regards, -- Markonian 08:41, July 10, 2016 (UTC)

I'm back and Swarm[edit source]

Hello Admiral Markonian,

Sorry for the silence on my part these last two months, I am going through some personal issues so I was not in the right mind to contribute, plus there was no much to update the Wiki with. (I am mostly a Star Trek comics and games person and less of a books person though I do have a few favorites such as Peter David's work)

I still plan to eventually add summaries to the New Visions comics but I need to finish my reviews for Star Trek Early Voyages first for another website.

The latest NV issue, number 12 "Swarm", has been released so I can add that article. Unfortunate I have not found any good shots of the alien drones that appear the story so I can not add an article about them, or at least not one with an image. --The Dutch Ghost (talk) 18:31, September 30, 2016 (UTC)

No worries, Dutch Ghost. "Markonian" suffices - I had to add the extraneous title early on. Anyway, don't feel pressured into adding pictures - they are beneficial but not mandatory. And as pages can be edited, amendments are always possible. Also, no hurry is required for updating the 'New Visions articles. Working on the wiki is fun - not a university assignment with a deadline. Enjoy what you're doing. Kind regards, -- Markonian 21:55, September 30, 2016 (UTC)

My issue of Star Trek New Visions Special: More of the Serpent than the Dove has come in so I will be creating a page for that issue soon. Getting screenshots might be difficult as there is not digital version of this issue and not likely to come out either as it is a Star Trek Humble Bundle gift. I don't have the right scanner myself and I don't want to fold my copy either (I won't be able to replace it). I can probably find the front of the cover on Memory Alpha.--The Dutch Ghost (talk) 06:37, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Hello Markonian, shall I help out with updating the articles on the Star Trek Waypoint series by IDW? I have been following that series along with New Visions as well as the Boldly Go series (for the moment) as it has a Borg storyline.
I already uploaded some images of panels for the last to the two comic page entries.--The Dutch Ghost (talk) 22:03, December 2, 2016 (UTC)

You're making yourself a great comic resource. Imaging is up to you - my computer is broken. Don't hold back. Kind regards, -- Markonian 22:18, December 4, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Star Trek comics are a big passion of mine and I am probably this wiki's biggest Star Trek comic buff.
As you can see I have added article pages for New Visions 13 and 14 to the wiki.
When my head is a bit more clear again and I can mentally place things in order I will try to add some summaries of comics stories to their appropriate pages.
The only comics I won't do are the Gold Key ones, DC comic publications, and Malibu Deep Space Nine comics. They are just to old for my taste and I don't find it interesting digging into them.--The Dutch Ghost (talk) 03:47, December 10, 2016 (UTC)
Sure thing. M-Beta is a passion project, not a job. It's a fun way to contribute to our community in particular, and society in general. So, thanks for tackling comics on our behalf. Kind regards, -- Markonian 06:40, December 10, 2016 (UTC)

I am back again. I just updated the information on Star Trek New Visions issue 15 and created a page for issue 16 and added some information and the cover. Later this weekend I will add some images for issue 15 and perhaps expand some of the articles. One of these days I would really like to update all the previous New Visions pages and add links such as ranks, locations, other references and so on.--The Dutch Ghost (talk) 08:49, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

Welcome back! The best way to get started with filling out those extra details, is to copy them from an existing page and adjust the lists as needed. I.e. Ranks: keeping "captain" but removing "admiral" if none is mentioned. That's how I deal with the wiki's coding. Kinds regards, -- Markonian 20:04, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

Apologies for not having updated the latest issue of Star Trek New Visions yet. I have the physical issue but no digital resources yet which I can use to fill in this article or make the page for the next upcoming issue.--The Dutch Ghost (talk) 13:38, June 26, 2017 (UTC)

No apologies needed, mate. Working on this wiki is essentially voluntary work. You're investing your time, your brainpower, using your resources. We're the unsung heroes of cataloguing. Hey, maybes it's time for me now to start reading the actual comics. Kind regards, -- Markonian 21:08, June 26, 2017 (UTC)

Hi Markonian, as you may have seen earlier, I have now created pages for all of the currently released New Visions stories that were still missing or red colored (exception is the compilation volumes but I will do that in the future, captainMike already gave me an idea how their template should look like. Next step would be to write descriptions for the stories that don't have them and later on summaries of their stories but I don't know when I begin on that. I think the summaries should not be walls of texts, basically complete stories of their own for the visitors/readers to go through. Just the story compressed to the essentials, if people want to know more they should read the comics.

BTW, is there any video game work that still needs to be done? (old games, I don't own Online or Bridge Crew) I already have looked at other Star Trek comics which I own such as the Marvel ones and Wildstorm ones but their article pages appear to be fully finished --The Dutch Ghost (talk) 16:44, July 15, 2017 (UTC)

Dank je wel! I'll start reading the New Visions comics myself next month. Then I'll have a better understanding of your work. Comics and games always have a niche that needs expansion (my current focus is on IDW, Trexels and STO). If articles have already been written, you can look at updating or expanding them. In any case, your idea about the summary looks sound. Thank you for your great work, Ghost. Kind regards, -- Markonian 09:12, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

Hello Markonian, I have started to update the pages for Star Trek New Visions issue 17 and 18 but I have made somewhat of a mistake with Issue 18. When I created the page I accidentally gave it the name of the story rather than the issue (I do this in case an issue contains multiple stories). I renamed the newly created page after the issue but when I try to create a page for the first story in it the link instead of creating a new page directs to itself/the issue page. Is there any way to resolve this?--The Dutch Ghost (talk) 22:39, November 11, 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Dutch. Yes, there is an easy fix. Search for the name of the story. The page then redirects you to issue 18. But on top of the page, right beneath the page title, there’s a small blue link to the story name. Click on that link and edit the page to remove the REDIRECT. Kind regards, -- Markonian 09:01, November 12, 2017 (UTC)

Ah thank you, now I can continue on the page for this article. I was already looking for alternative solutions but I thought it would be better to wait for your or CaptainMike's response before doing anything that could make the situation an even bigger mess.--The Dutch Ghost (talk) 11:51, November 12, 2017 (UTC)

Markonian, I know this isn't the right place to ask this kind of information but would you happen to have a facebook account (or an account on the Trek BBS) where I could talk with you? Sincerely TDG--The Dutch Ghost (talk) 08:35, November 24, 2017 (UTC)

Alright, it’s under Marko Nörenberg. There’s only two in the world. Kind regards, -- Markonian 22:21, November 26, 2017 (UTC)

Memory Beta in 2017[edit source]

Hi Markonian, I just wanted to thank you for your caretaker efforts with our image categories, as its a huge avenue for expansion in the 2010s era that wasnt as much of a focus when the wiki was founded in 2005-2006.

In particular, I have tested a new parameter application for categories that will work with citations, so we don't have to take so much granular effort with the subcat parameters.

{{e-img}}, {{m-img}} and {{c-img}} can now be used instead of {{e}}, {{m}} and {{c}} for direct citations only in images only, respectively. since the direct citation specifies the series, these templates automatically add subcat parameters for 'episode images', 'movie images' and 'comic images', as well as a series subcat (for example) 'TNG episode images', 'TOS movie images' or say 'VOY comic images'.

I think the next step will be to create {{g-img}}, {{n-img}}, {{ccg-img}}, {{r-img}} and {{rpg-img}} to replace usages of direct citations in images that use {{g}}, {{n}}, {{ccg}}, {{r}} and {{rpg}}. This will mean the virtual elimination of ever having to use the parameter "subcat=video game images" and so forth. just FYI that these things are evolving as you'll be involved in the evolution. Kind regards, Captain MKB 10:57, February 17, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, Captain MKB! That should make things easier, especially because I'm doing all the edits from a mobile device. I see that File:USSVenture.jpg is an example of the updated coding already. Can't wait to sink my teeth into it! Kind regards, -- Markonian 12:17, February 17, 2017 (UTC)

Articles that either need to be expanded or deleted[edit source]

Hello Admiral Markonian

A user has added a number of new articles that I think are based on Star Trek Online. However these articles barely have any content, let alone reference links.

How do I add an indicator that these articles need to be expanded? Otherwise I think they should be deleted.

Here are the pages in question:

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Ferenginar_sector http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Planetary_Council http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Science_Council http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Hybrid

Hope to hear from you or another moderator on it.--The Dutch Ghost (talk) 10:25, February 18, 2017 (UTC)

Hi The Dutch Ghost. If you browse Memory Beta administrative templates you can find a number of markings for your articles, and you're always welcome to get in touch with one of the admins to ask such questions. -- Captain MKB 11:45, February 18, 2017 (UTC)
There's a STO template but I don't know know it on top of my head. However, when I'm home from work I'll check for sources. Kind regards, -- Markonian 18:21, February 18, 2017 (UTC)

Images[edit source]

Hi Markonian, i wanted to let you know image work has been seeming to run very smoothly. I found an old consensus that called for the removal of canon screenshots from the Pic of the Day browser in favor of licensed images, since this is the licensed work wiki.

Do you think any of the images youve worked with are noteworthy for this? I think you have been focused on STO and the like? WOuld you care to pick a handful of those to be featured on the Main Page in the Pic of the Day? we could just replace some canon screenshots with your chosen STO images. -- Captain MKB 02:30, March 2, 2017 (UTC)

That makes sense. I'll have a look. On top of my head, I can think of <File:Enterprise-C_and_Pastak.jpg>. It may look gimmicky, but this image is reproducible by any player that plays the mission and does not involve player-made content. Pure source material, so to speak. Btw, I really like the new <e-img> and <c-img> tags. Game- and novel-related ones will come in handy. Kind regards, -- Markonian 09:11, March 2, 2017 (UTC)
I went ahead and enacted that image as the PotD for 8 March - you can look it up there if youd like to see the procedure. I had to remove the PotD tag from an episode image of the Fesarius.
also, {{g-img}} and {{STO-img}} should now be ready to go. They will create a large overcategory for all video game images and a large overcategory for all STO images, as well as relieving us of the necessity of using the attribution template's "subcat"s to denote the game source. cheers, -- Captain MKB 14:09, March 2, 2017 (UTC)
Thanks a million! Kind regards, -- Markonian 17:15, March 2, 2017 (UTC)

Image formatting[edit source]

Hey dude could you stop eliminating the "subcat" (before subcat1) from imagesource codes? the proper order should be "subcat", "subcat1", "subcat2" etc. Theres no need to sift through and eliminate that parameter, its perfectly valid.

Also, please stop tagging subcats for people and ships on book covers. If their images will be valid, they'll be uploaded seperately. thanks-- captainmike Wiki-wordmark.png 13:49, June 28, 2017 (UTC)

Also, if an image is already in "Federation starships", there's NO NEED to add it into "starships". Please stop, thank you -- captainmike Wiki-wordmark.png 13:52, June 28, 2017 (UTC)
Understood. I'll avoid that from now on and correct it on images I come across. Kind regards, -- Markonian 21:44, June 28, 2017 (UTC)

Cdrone[edit source]

Hey, I don't know about you, but I think this thing with Cdrone has gone on long enough. This person has no intention of editing what pages they put in. Even as I type this, they are just randomly making pages, and some of the info isn't even correct. I believe this has to count for some sort of vandalism. --Humanoid21 (talk) 15:56, July 12, 2017 (UTC)

I agree with the above. As I stated on Captain Mike's user talk page, I vote for a permaban of this user. - Bell'Orso (talk) 18:32, July 12, 2017 (UTC)
Agreed. -- Markonian 06:16, July 13, 2017 (UTC)

template changes[edit source]

Please have a look here and let me know your thoughts. Thanks. - Bell'Orso (talk) 00:48, July 17, 2017 (UTC)

my old nomination for adminship[edit source]

Hi Markonian! I recently reconsidered my opinion towards adminship and would like to ask if your vote is still valid. I already contacted Mike and he assured me that his is, and he even gave the page an edit recently so that others can see it, but so far only Typhus has chimed in. Please let me know if your vote is still the same or if you have changed your mind. Thanks in advance! - Bell'Orso (talk) 10:51, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

I've renewed my vote of confidence, Bell'Orso. Kind regards, -- Markonian 15:19, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

"Trexels"-related pages[edit source]

I just corrected a whole bunch of links on Battle Group 3 to point to the actual ships instead of disambiguation pages. In the future, could you make sure that "USS Random Name" actually links to a ship article and NOT a disambiguation page which, in turn, links to two or more different ship articles? Also, "USS Springfield" is not the page for the Springfield-class prototype, but an earlier ship. I have amended that link with "_(prototype)" for now, since I'm not aware of any licensed source mentioning the Springfield-class prototype's registry number. Feel free to correct me, if I'm wrong. - Bell'Orso (talk) 07:12, July 28, 2017 (UTC)

I wrote the article on the fly and forgot to add the specific links. I am sorry you had to clean up my mess. On BG1 and BG2 it should be all sorted already. Kind regards, -- Markonian 14:17, July 28, 2017 (UTC)

On a similar note, the ship prefixes for the Breen ships seem to be all over the place. For example, is the IRW Wequit a Breen ship, or is it a Romulan ship? I don't have the game myself, so I can't check, but I feel like all of those ships should have the "BRE" prefix, and not "IRW" or even "JEM". - Bell'Orso (talk) 21:58, July 31, 2017 (UTC)

Agreed. I can provide screenshots as proof. Will do after work. I believe BRE is the genuine Breen prefix, and JEM is a copy&paste error by the game makers from a previous Dominion event. The Wequit was the only ship I encountered with IRW prefix, and you encountered each ship several times.
Can we use BRE for each Breen ship that doesn't have a prefix yet? Kind regards, -- Markonian 07:25, August 1, 2017 (UTC)
Screenshots aren't needed, at least not for me. I'm more than happy to take your word for it, I just wanted to get clarification. Now, if a ship is named "IRW Shipname" or "JEM Shipname" ingame, then of course we'll have to use that as the page name here on this wiki. The only thing we could do would be to add a background note to each page, stating that the ship prefix appears to be a copy & paste error. As for moving other, pre-existing ships' pages (such as those from STO) to the BRE prefix, I would hold off on that. "BRE" and "JEM" seem too generic to me, and given that there might have been a serious mess-up while naming ships, I'm disinclined to trust the game in that regard.
Now, about the "IRW Wequit": Does the player ever encounter it as a Romulan-controlled ship, or does it only ever appear under Breen control? That's the main point here. So far, all the new pages for "Malem" class starships that you've created have the description "Romulan starship [...] in Breen Confederacy service". This implies that those ships used to be operated by the Romulans, before being given to the Breen. But, if there is no proof of that, it should just say "Breen starship [...] in Confederacy service". I say that because although the "Malem" class is a Romulan design, if the ship itself was never in Romulan service then it is solely a Breen ship. But, as stated above, the prefix must stay. After all, there could be some as-yet unexplained reason behind those not being what they logically should be. - Bell'Orso (talk) 10:28, August 1, 2017 (UTC)
I see. In game, all the Malem ships that appear in the Breen Barrier mission are built and used exclusively y the Breen, including the IRW Wequit. I do not know yet if they appear as playable ships. But I'll soon progress to Battle Group 4 and will know then. Kind regards, -- Markonian 12:46, August 1, 2017 (UTC)

Possible vandalism[edit source]

Hello, just letting everyone know of possible vandalism from a no-name editor. I would edit the pages myself but I have not read the source material. Also, Cdrone is back and did two pages. All the best, -- Humanoid21 (talk) 14:18, August 1, 2017 (UTC)

MSDs[edit source]

Did you alter those images you recently uploaded in any way? They look awfully blurry. Like they were enlarged from a relatively small resolution, like ~600 pixels by (whatever), to their current resolution of ~1300 pixels by (whatever). If that was you, I suggest simply reuploading all the images at their original resolutions. If it wasn't and you found those images like that, I suggest finding replacements. I find their ability to illustrate the topics that they display to be severely hampered by their blurriness. - Bell'Orso (talk) 21:44, October 13, 2017 (UTC)

Hi. I uploaded the MSD's unaltered, straight from the Eaglemoss site. They are as blurry in the original. Good news is, that set of four small craft will be released at the end of the month, then I can take an actual photo of the MSD in the magazines. Until then, we could keep the existing MSD's as placeholders, delete them, or I upload miniaturised versions. Which options is best? Kind regards, -- Markonian 07:46, October 14, 2017 (UTC)
If you could scan the magazines once they come out, I think that would be best. I guess until then the current versions can remain as placeholders. - Bell'Orso (talk) 13:22, October 14, 2017 (UTC)
hey, noticing graphics talk so i figure i'd chime in.
I havent nominated that the community come to a consensus on policy, but FYI i've been following a general rule-of-thumb for "fair-use" of making sure that even our most high-quality images have their longest side be from 800 to 1600 pixels
in a situation where a 1300px image is provided from a source but presents itself with poor quality, sometimes it might be best to use a thumbnail of 640px (to halve the image's size) it's still just as unreadable but takes up less space.
the image pages offer smaller rescales that have a smoothing routine added to them, i've been using it to gather acceptable smaller versions in cases where users have sloppily uploaded things that are 2000 or 3000 pixels in width (which is a definite violation of fair use).
by the way, last year when Wikia code help was sent to us for our sidebars, it was strongly considered that we consider 300px in width to be our smallest image parameter - which i agree with and have been working towards. in cases where something is actually low quality, scaling it down that far is a certain way to make sure it is regarded as a placeholder by discerning eyes while presenting just about the same quality to readers in general - captainmike Wiki-wordmark.png 13:50, October 14, 2017 (UTC)
Makes sense. On mobile devices, the actual size in px of an image can not be decreased. Kind regards, -- Markonian 14:34, October 14, 2017 (UTC)

On the topic of images again, I see that you uploaded some images from SotL 2018. However, those images are ridiculously large (almost 4k wide) and yet blurry as hell. Could you not use a crappy phone camera to take pictures and instead scan them in at a copy shop? Thanks. - Bell'Orso (talk) 21:37, October 15, 2017 (UTC)

Everyone participates in the wiki according to their own devices and willingness so it might not be possible to ask a user to aquire new skills or devices to contribute material.
However, i would ask that we set a course based on this feedback --- blurry phone images, downloads from low-quality sources, etc should be marked with a maintenance template to show that we are open to attention being given to replacing the data with a more robust upload or edit. -- captainmike Wiki-wordmark.png 02:56, October 16, 2017 (UTC)
I agree with the idea of a maintenance template. Now, on the matter of user contribution, I was not asking Markonian to go buy a better phone, I was merely requesting that, if he DOES want to contribute an image, he try to make sure it is of acceptable quality and therefor does not add to the workload of existing low-quality images wherever possible. I will admit that I did forget that not everyone has ready access to a scanner at home or a copy shop in town. I'll simply make it my next project to get my copy of the SotL 2018 calendar properly digitized for use here. - Bell'Orso (talk) 03:15, October 16, 2017 (UTC)
Thank you both for your input. Your statements are reasonable. I'll avoid uploading super-huge files. Kind regards, -- Markonian 06:27, October 16, 2017 (UTC)

Memory Beta:Good Articles[edit source]

Could you please take a moment next time you are editing and nominate a "good article" - we have a very short list and i'd like to make it a more regular task to push positivity for articles that have been blessed with good information. self nominations are OK, or just something you like that is not already marked "good" or "featured" thanks in advance, captainmike Wiki-wordmark.png 01:27, January 20, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I’ll keep an eye open and put in a nomination when I spot a candidate. Kind regards, -- Markonian 13:52, January 20, 2018 (UTC)
Thanks so much. -- captainmike Site-logo.png 23:27, September 9, 2018 (UTC)

Image approvals[edit source]

I've contributed to the discussion on your third party nomination. Besides your response there, could you add some input on other pending approval processes above that in the list? thanks -- captainmike Site-logo.png 23:27, September 9, 2018 (UTC)

Bernd Perplies site[edit source]

Hi, you identified "Bernd Perplies.de" as a Cross Cult website - it is not, it Perplies's personal site. Its not valid info for the wiki. I deleted the picture of Captain Adams - captainmike Site-logo.png 14:50, October 19, 2018 (UTC)

Oops! My error. Thank you for correcting. Next time I replace this content, I'll make sure it's from an official, licenced Cross Cult product. Kind regards, -- Markonian 08:21, October 22, 2018 (UTC)

I'm hoping he was sharing it there because its material that will someday be published, and we can restore it - thanks - captainmike Site-logo.png 21:22, October 25, 2018 (UTC)

Fleet Command[edit source]

Just downloaded it today! Got the game page started! Saw you got the Realta and Turas pages, as well as the Saladin 0500 and the Intrepid 1485 up! #teamwork! --WTRiker (talk) 22:19, December 3, 2018 (UTC)

Welcome aboard! I’m adding stuff piecemeal and hope somebody will launch a game-specific wiki like STOWiki is for STO. There’s a Facebook fan group, too. Anything you would like me to tackle specifically? Kind regards, -- Markonian 22:36, December 3, 2018 (UTC)

Image uploads[edit source]

I've been noticing a problem with the way some people are uploading images -- listing multiple sources.

When you uploaded some STO images, you list as the source: the STO game, and then one or two websites? Which is it? An image should only list the actual source of the image.

If the image is NOT a screengrab from the game, you should NOT use "g-img" to reference it to the game. it's misleading.

Likewise, if the image IS a screengrab from the game, you should NOT list the website -- the website is just a party that provided you with the screencap in that case, the actual source is the game. the website link is just spam, is misdirects traffic to that site.

If the website is providing developer images, and is official, then yes we can use the image but we should omit the "g-img" or sto-img tags that make it appear the image is from the game itself. it's not from the game, its from the website.

I hope this is clear - captainmike Site-logo.png 13:28, March 23, 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the heads-up. The pattern I followed was citing the website the image was posted on, plus the STO mission where the developers took the image from. From now on, I'll choose either the game's screen-grab source or the official website post, whichever applies to a particular image. Kind regards, -- Markonian 21:12, March 23, 2019 (UTC)
Thanks again as always for being approachable about these sorts of things.
As a note, if you did need to link back to a game or mission for clarity's sake, it's ok to write the link. Just use the {{g}} or {{STO}} citation templates. the {{g-img}} and {{STO-img}} templates have mechanics in them which categorize it based on their source, which is how i noticed. the other templates are just for linking, without the architecture to auto categorize images.
one final note, a few of your uploads have landed in Special:UnusedFiles -- no articles use them yet - and there are a few other users' video game images there i just haven't been able to make progress citing. If there's any use for them in the video game articles, i figueed that's your expertise and you could make suggestions if there's time -- captainmike Site-logo.png 14:32, March 24, 2019 (UTC)
Sure. I've been perusing that category occasionally for that purpose. I'll see what I can do. Kind regards, -- Markonian 18:28, March 24, 2019 (UTC)

Dassik[edit source]

Hi I need a little help of the Dassik species that I put there from the novel called 'The Face of the Unknown' and I was hoping if anyone can finished it as well as the Cheronians species from the novel called 'No Time Like the Past' ok

Hi. I've read both novels. What help would you like with these two species? Kind regards, -- Markonian 18:38, July 18, 2019 (UTC)

Another thing do other Alpha and Beta Quadrants states need their own colors like Blue for the Federation, Red for the Klingons, Green for the Romulans, Yellow for the Cardassians, Orange for the Ferengi, then the yellow orange for the Tholians.

What about the First Federation, the Talarian Repulic, and the Tzenkethi Coalition. They don't have to stay grey all the time. And I known I don't have permission to do so, I thought it would be much cooler okay.

I read your message and I was wondering if you can find a way to finished the Dassik species for me as well as the Cheronians, it would be more helpful.

And do you have access to the colors to other interstellar states like the First Federation the color number to that state is ffba66. Then the Tzenkethi color number is b8b800.

Did you get any of my messages from the last couple of weeks for the need of a color for the First Federation, if you have access.

Hi again. Sorry, I don't have the skills to do the colors, but it is a good idea for major factions. For example, we have a default color for Delta Quadrant and for Mirror Universe, so Imho it would make sense to have colors for the other three quadrants as well.

As an aside, could you sign your comments on talk pages like this, please? Just add ~ four times at the end of your post/comment. Kind regards, -- Markonian 19:46, August 2, 2019 (UTC)

I hardly think the first Federation has had enough appearances to warrant writing a new code - same goes for the Tzenkethi and the Talarians.
Furthermore, the alpha/beta quadrants are covered under the default color and the delta and gamma quadrants have overall color code - again, because most of their states are not prominent enough to warrant writing a new color code. -- captainmike Site-logo.png 04:14, August 20, 2019 (UTC)

image categorizations[edit source]

Hey, there's no need to create subdivided categories for "Delta Quadrant nebulae" or "Beta Quadrant planets" when categorizing images. -- captainmike Site-logo.png 04:07, August 20, 2019 (UTC)

Okay. My thoughts behind that were that sources like games and comics have so many area-specific space objects that it might be worthwhile. i.e. "Let's check out all the nebulae of the Delta Quadrant!" However, I'll cut the over-categorization. ^̮^ Kind regards, -- Markonian 09:27, August 20, 2019 (UTC)

Lynne Lucero[edit source]

Question, how are you deriving the 2258 date for "The Trouble with Edward"? There's really no indication of exactly when that Short Trek takes place. It might even be before "Q&A", for all we know. Lucero is the departing science officer, and Spock might very well be her replacement, placing it in 2253 or 2254, not 2258. There's certainly nothing to suggest a placement after Disco season 2. The dating is wide open, as far as anyone can tell. --TimPendragon (talk) 19:59, January 19, 2020 (UTC)

Wouldn't it make sense that these episodes are in a rough chronological order? "The Enterprise War" establishes the Enterprise was refitted to its DSC-era configuration for the mission in the Pergamum Nebula in 2256. Enterprise returns for the season-long arc in 2257, before undergoing repairs until 2258. The "Q&A" ep might show the 2257 style clothes, ship and equipment due to budgetary reasons, the way "Children of Mars" reuses DSC era ships. In another episode, "Ephraim & Dot", we see the DSC-era Enterprise throughout TOS, presumably either due to Ephraim's unique perception of time or a simple reuse of an existing asset. Furthermore, Pike sported no gray hear in 2254 but did in later years, when he also is wearing the "new" uniform. Imho, it's easier to pinpoint the events to a specific year - 2258, than just using a generic 2250s timing. Kind regards, -- Markonian 20:52, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
That's all speculation, some of it reasonable, from data presented that's well open to interpretation. However, drawing conclusions from that kind of speculation is -- I've been told repeatedly -- against policy on Memory Beta. According to Q&A, Pike's hair is as white in 2254 as it is in 2257. The two Short Treks in question were filmed simultaneously, and may as well take place roughly concurrently as well. In fact, if we do take them sequentially, the more logical view is indeed that Spock comes aboard because Lucero got promoted, and then she leaves when they rendezvous with the Cabot. That's the apparent relation when viewing these episodes in context. But, in practice, there's no evidence one way or the other, and to ignore info as it's presented -- the uniforms, the ship configuration, Pike's hair, etc -- to make things fit into your personal interpretation is beyond the scope of this wiki. We simply do not know when "The Trouble with Edward" takes place, and until more data is provided that addresses the point directly, we cannot draw a conclusion here. I'm sorry. --TimPendragon (talk) 21:20, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
That makes sense. I'll follow Wiki policy, like in the example you set out, for related edits. Kind regards, -- Markonian 21:36, January 19, 2020 (UTC)

Jeffries class[edit source]

I have one nagging question: Where did you get the Jefferies-class starship? It hasn't even been released yet!Gundam Man (talk) 08:21, February 2, 2020 (UTC)

I don't have it yet :) - it appeared by accident on the Starship Acquisition interface after an update that removed Warship Voyager. Kind regards, -- Markonian 21:59, February 3, 2020 (UTC)

ccg-img template[edit source]

Hi, i noticed you copied and pasted the CCG imag template from another variable, some of the code in there would be problematic to use (we don't need to specify "CCG" as parameter {1 for example since theyre all ccgs. i fixed it, sorry to interfere while you were editing. i'll go back through an fix the usage -- captainmike Site-logo.png 20:38, April 10, 2020 (UTC)

I just like have things properly sourced. :) I've nearly got it working so that it can display CCG set: XXX, card "subject"). Kind regards, -- Markonian 20:42, April 10, 2020 (UTC)
Yes, but since the template is called "CCG" you don't need to write in a switch that makes the user fill in "CCG" as a variable each time. Also you didnt need the variable for a second card - an image is only from one card, not from two cards -- captainmike Site-logo.png 20:45, April 10, 2020 (UTC)
I adjusted the template so it only needs variables 1, 2, 3 = sort of like the RPG-img template. 1 = the game - either Decipher CCG, The Card Game, etc.. variable 2 is the set, and variable 3 is the card. if there's an expansion pack, you can use variable "sub" -- captainmike Site-logo.png 20:51, April 10, 2020 (UTC)
I adjusted Serrola and Tykk images so they'd function with less typing by the user - take a look. Again, sorry to grab this while you were working on it - i do appreciate the organization you are bringing to this -- captainmike Site-logo.png 20:55, April 10, 2020 (UTC)
That makes sense. Thank you, I see now on the example images (Serrola and Tykk) that it works. Great! We've got a template for nearly every source now. Kind regards, -- Markonian 21:00, April 10, 2020 (UTC)
Thanks again for making these things happen. there's a lot of gaming that you are the admiral of - captainmike Site-logo.png 21:09, April 10, 2020 (UTC)

Hull materials and other STO articles[edit source]

Hi Markonian, another user has brought to my attention that there was some discussion about how to format STO user options articles in reference to my question about merges and POV.

Just wondering if you could briefly summarize your points and perhaps we can make a forum or policy discussion about creating more STO infrastructure here on the wiki -- 21:35, April 14, 2020 (UTC)

Hi Mike, thank you for weighing in. I argue in favor of cataloging every in-universe content from the STO game. That includes the materials tech. TimPendragon advises that not every content is relevant to the Trek narrative and Memory Beta. The bottom line of my approach is, Memory Beta covers every aspect of licensed Trek, we just haven't gotten around to cataloging it all. STO is an amazing source because it is text-heavy (like novels) and picture-heavy (like comics and on-screen material).
Thus, the materials pages are a great way to improve the number of Memory Beta pages with interlinked, non-orphaned pages whose content is sourced, independently verifiable, and has a strong visual aspect. Kind regards, -- Markonian 22:29, April 14, 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for summarizing the discussion. in my talk page post I had wondered if we could create some parent articles to merge some of the points into list articles, and to put a boilerplate message marking them as STO player menu data. i'd like to see the content youre contributing continue but i wanted to introduce some organization that could make navigation a bit easier, and promote linkage. i'll do up a temp article of what i had in mind for the hull material perhaps and you and I could discuss? - -captainmike Site-logo.png 22:44, April 14, 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. I would like to study your proposal because a merge sounds like a good idea but I cannot visualise the result. If our community can come up with a standard for what and what not to cover from STO, I can follow that guidance to avoid running into this discussion repeatedly. Kind regards, -- Markonian 23:02, April 14, 2020 (UTC)
I think demonstrations carry a lot more weight than talk page descriptions. it might take a few days as i am tied up with both real life and a few other pursuits -- captainmike Site-logo.png 23:46, April 14, 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, Mike. That sounds like a plan. There's no hurry. Until then, I'll focus my editing on topics with a narrower scope. Kind regards, -- Markonian 10:43, April 15, 2020 (UTC)

STO citations[edit source]

You might have noticed - I've updated {{STO}} to make things a little simpler, just as a procedural note, STO should now always be cited with an STO template (never with {{g}} or {{ss}}). i think this means we need an {{STO-web}} cite as well.

we can work towards the 'sourced from STO' category being the basis of an STO portal here on MB if this works properly. all the STO citations will create automatic categorizations to refine the signal to noise ratio of STO articles. -- captainmike Site-logo.png 22:44, April 18, 2020 (UTC)

Also noted: these cites will be for 'in-universe' articles only. there will be an "lk" version at some point for behind the scenes. This will help to write the interest menu i described in my previous messages - captainmike Site-logo.png 22:47, April 18, 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. I've observed your installation of the new system but I am still in the process of comprehending it. I like the overview of STO references. That will indeed make it neater to source correctly content from the game and various ancillary material. For the STO-web version, should it say (1) STO website, (2) STO blog, or (3) should we have two separate templates for STO websites and STO blogs? Kind regards, -- -- Markonian 19:20, April 20, 2020 (UTC)
when you are writing the link to an STO source without it being a direct citation it will use {{STOlk}}. I rather think the STO-web version will be versatile with an operator that will specify cases where the link being called is a blog -- captainmike Site-logo.png 19:34, April 20, 2020 (UTC)

Hi[edit source]

I gave you a shoutout on Memory Beta:Requests for adminship if you want to go see -- captainmike Site-logo.png 22:16, May 15, 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, I'm checking it out. Kind regards, -- Markonian 09:12, May 16, 2020 (UTC)

Starbase 82 template[edit source]

Hey, i'm real concerned about opening a can of worms for making a browser template for Starbase 82 and Starbase 82 (Kelvin timeline) - there are two of them, right? we can't make a 'space stations named...' template for every space station that happens to have an alternate timeline.

in the past, i had tried to maintain that we shouldnt have a browser template unless there were three things with the same name - i know you have been overzealous and will just make one for two ships instead of waiting for a third ship but i really think we're overcomplicating things here and i'd like to ask you to look at the big picture.

furthermore, something doesn't necessarily need a separate article if it exists in two universes. while i will grant that Starbase 82 is a different object and has two sets of specifications, but other things (like races) do not generally change between universes -- a Tellarite for example - we don't necessarily want to make Tellarite (mirror) or Tellarite (Kelvin timeline) articles unnecessarily - there's no reason.

we need to step back i think, and look at the reasoning for why we would split things up -- captainmike Site-logo.png 12:59, June 7, 2020 (UTC)

Okay, We can slap the administration template on the affected starbases (82 & 91). Merging them also makes the combined article longer. A rule of three for template application I can roll with. Kind regards, -- Markonian 15:36, June 7, 2020 (UTC)

Administrator confirmation[edit source]

Congratulations, and may the Great Bird of the Galaxy have mercy on your soul. I've confirmed your administratorship as of this stardate.

My best advice is to start slow, and don't be afraid to ask another admin or bureaucrat for pointers. In fact, any user situation you feel might be in need of moderation, start the conversation with a question, and let the tone of the answer inform you as much as the content.

Deletions and moves are pretty straightforward, and i keep forgetting to do a demonstration of a proper pagemove, as that is the biggest can of worms you might have to deal with. Once you combine the history of two articles, it is very hard to diverge them again. We'll talk more later, and thanks for being patient. its been a wild summer here in the U.S. -- captainmike Site-logo.png 22:01, July 23, 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much! The honor is appreciated. I'll take baby steps to get used to the new role, for however long it lasts. Kind regards, -- Markonian 19:17, July 25, 2020 (UTC)

Kepler-18[edit source]

Good catch on finding the wikipedia article for Kepler-18 -- that allowed for a large expansion of the article. Many thanks -- captainmike Site-logo.png 22:11, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
Thank you! I think it's cool when Trek incorporates real worlds. Kind regards, -- Markonian 20:12, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

ISS Rademaker pic[edit source]

Hey, i'm not sure but i think you messed up uploading file:ISS Rademaker.jpg. It was twice as tall as it was wide, and didnt even show the whole ship? I deleted hoping someone might find a more appropriate image.

In general, images (especialy those going into sidebars) should be wider than they are tall. Otherwise they really mess up the look of the page. Since STO uses a theatrical screen aspect (wider than it is tall), that means you cropped the image for some reason? Was there a reason? I think we'd rather leave some of the surrounding landscape in, especially if it gives us a better view of the ship. -- captainmike Site-logo.png 18:39, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

I think i found a solution, I rotated it. See how it makes the page look better to have the sidebar not be overly tall? This kind of thing should be something you think about when choosing images. I noticed you tend to upload many images in a row and I think that maybe you're not taking time to consider the composition of the images you're acquiring.
Were you trying to hide something by cropping out the other side of the primary hull? Maybe it isn't worth making an awkwardly shaped image to crop out some other element that could really just stay in there - captainmike Site-logo.png 18:47, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for rotating the image. Yes, I was cropping the image down to the subject matter. I'll aim for better ratio'ed screenshots from now on. Kind regards, -- Markonian 21:17, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Psionic technology[edit source]

I think psionic technology is a valid article. if the user is having trouble citing individual parts/additions, we need to request citations and coach proper citing. i don't think it's a candidate for deletion since the basis is valid, but you're right, its wrong of the user to add uncited things and remove your valid notations requesting their attention -- captainmike Site-logo.png 22:42, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Agreed. Sorry for not clarifying. I had in mind that the marker would jog the user into reviewing the policy link in the Citation template. Kind regards, -- Markonian 13:36, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Discord server for Memory Beta[edit source]

Greetings Admiral, how are you doing? I'm Cörey, the Wiki Representative for Memory Beta.

I've been working on a Discord server for Memory Beta and would like to invite you to join and give a bit of feedback. The server is still a work-in-progress, but I'm hoping to have it ready to launch within the next couple weeks.

I'm hoping to see you there. 🙂

× Cörey (talk) 00:12, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Cörey! Thanks for inviting me. I've joined. Let's see what it'll do. Kind regards, -- Markonian 17:59, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Kelvin versions of Empires/States[edit source]

Hi Admiral - just realized there was unfinished business from our discussion about linking to Klingon Empire (Kelvin timeline) and like articles that are split off as KT variants

Your article is sound and sizeable enough to stand on its own - i don't think i could in good conscience do a summarily decided merge.

However, my concern was always with the linking scheme - i don't think we should be linking en masse to the Kelvin version - i think link traffic should primarily go to Klingon Empire and that Kelvin history should be branched off of there - to maintain that article as a major hub.

Additionally, any new Kelvin timeline states besides the big 3 - Fed, Rom, Klingon -- should probably remain merged within the parent primary universe article.

Sorry if i came off as brusque in my desire to regularize those links when i was reverting them a while back. i hope this approach will be a good protocol. - captainmike Site-logo.png 15:59, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for clarifying. I agree it makes sense to use your protocol and keep most state-referring content together, and that "the big three" have substantial enough content to stand on their own. Kind regards, -- Markonian 16:31, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Ships named X templates[edit source]

Btw, when editing these, please do NOT change the {{dislk| tag at the top to use the {{ship| template. The {{dislk}} template pushes those ship names to redirect via the "disambiguation" redirect to the actual disambiguation page which helps keep maintenance of incorrect links to disambiguation pages to a minimum.

I've gone and fixed all of the ones that I found (Excalibur, Intrepid, and Reliant), but please try to limit those changes in future. Thanks. -- Sulfur (talk) 14:04, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, and for correcting my overzealous edits. Kind regards, -- Markonian 16:08, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
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