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I will not change it then, seeing you pefer it this way, ok.--[[User:Typhuss999|Typhuss999]] ([[User talk:Typhuss999|talk]]) 20:39, September 8, 2019 (UTC)
 
I will not change it then, seeing you pefer it this way, ok.--[[User:Typhuss999|Typhuss999]] ([[User talk:Typhuss999|talk]]) 20:39, September 8, 2019 (UTC)
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==Global Taxonomy==
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Hi there! I'm happy to introduce to you the new feature called the Global Taxonomy. This formula accumulates wikis a user visits and generates a list of recommended wikis for them to visit. In other words, people who have an interest in a topic or genre you entail will be recommended a chance to visit this wiki! That will be perfect for garnering visitors here. You can read more about it on the [[w:c:community:User_blog:MisterWoodhouse/Introducing_Global_Taxonomy|blog]], plus if you're interested in template use, you can check out this [[w:c:community:User_blog:FishTank/Templates_and_Scripting_on_Fandom|link]], too. Hope you find them helpful!
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<span style="font-style:italic;font-family:Times New Roman; text-shadow: 1px 1px 1px MidnightBlue;">[[User:SilverFlight|<font color="silver">The Silver wings of Night</font>]]</span> ([[Message Wall:SilverFlight|talk]])<br/><staff/> 22:10, December 1, 2019 (UTC)
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== fanfiction ==
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can i put fan fiction here. --Owen 23:18, December 5, 2019 (UTC)
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:no. --Captainmike 23:04, December 5, 2019 (EST)
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==End of the Year==
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<span style="font-style:italic;font-family:Times New Roman; text-shadow: 1px 1px 1px MidnightBlue;">[[User:SilverFlight|<font color="silver">The Silver wings of Night</font>]]</span> ([[Message Wall:SilverFlight|talk]])<br/><staff/> 18:54, December 21, 2019 (UTC)
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== To answer your recent edit comments: ==
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;''if you knew it was from Modiphius why couldn't you just paste in the correct attribution?''
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Well, because I didn't know that was ''possible.'' When uploading an image, as I'm sure you know, it offers a dropdown list of attribution templates. There wasn't one for Modiphius, and I didn't see one where I could insert a source manually. Make sense? In that list, there's the templates for Cryptic, Pocket, etc, and the only other ones are "unknown," for the uploader to credit themselves, or general "fairuse." "Other, please insert here" isn't an option. So I didn't know that I ''could''. I had no idea that a general <nowiki>{{imagesouce}}</nowiki> template existed until now, looking at how you edited the image I uploaded. If you don't want people to make the same mistake I did, then that should be made an option somehow on the image upload page. --[[User:TimPendragon|TimPendragon]] ([[User talk:TimPendragon|talk]]) 14:47, January 31, 2020 (UTC)
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:I will add the option the next time i am working from my home computer now that they are a major release. when i'm out and about i can't get too in depth about admin functions for the sake of propriety. i am aware the drop down exists but as you can see from my edits i tend to just code the template myself, since it has such a simple (one word followed by one required parameter) keystroke.
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:so, you were looking at it a from a different angle than myself and other contributors, but your suggestion is valuable as the special characters are hard to type (another reason i can't edit at the same caliber when traveling away from my home setup). thank you for the valuable suggestion
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:most of the drop down options are coded to flag the images for attention because they are intended only for walk-up users, experienced editors are expected to paint in broader strokes -- '''''[[user:captainmike|captainmike]]''''' [[file:wiki-wordmarkX.png|69px]] 16:31, January 31, 2020 (UTC)
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== Help with Template syntax? ==
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Hi, Mike. I hate to bother you with this, but I'm nearing my wit's end. I've been asked to help out on the wiki for ''Clear Skies'', a Star Trek: Adventures RPG streaming show, and I've been trying to add some basic templates for citation and such. If you have a moment, could you please help me understand the syntax I need for something? I've researched and have found little relevant, and I've have asked on the Fandom Community help, and their responses haven't really been at all helpful.
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I have [https://clear-skies-rpg.fandom.com/wiki/Template:Ep this template] set up, but I want to get it to the point where we can have multiple parameters, and typing {ep|1.1|1.2|1.4} would give "Episode Name", "Episode Name", "Episode Name" for example. I know I probably need to move the #switch data to a subpage like Template:Ep/switch or something to that effect, and there's #if syntax involved. I'm just not sure exactly how it needs to be formatted. Basically, I just want it to be like typing {TNG|Relics|Datalore|All Good Things} and have it properly list them with commas, like it would on Memory Alpha.
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As I said, I'm sorry to bother you with this, but I figure you might know, and these days, I don't know who else to ask that's still active. --[[User:TimPendragon|TimPendragon]] ([[User talk:TimPendragon|talk]]) 17:37, February 27, 2020 (UTC)
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:Nevermind, someone else saw and was able to help. :-) --[[User:TimPendragon|TimPendragon]] ([[User talk:TimPendragon|talk]]) 19:21, February 28, 2020 (UTC)
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::Sorry I couldn't be more help, i was away for a few days. those templates work pretty well but they do tend to let spaces " " gang up on you if you have all the code lined up in rows. i mostly just copy paste other wikis and have to do a lot of weird test phases. -- '''''[[user:captainmike|captainmike]]''''' [[file:wiki-wordmarkX.png|69px]] 15:09, February 29, 2020 (UTC)
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==UCP==
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Hello there!<br>
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How are you doing? I'm sharing with you an important message about the upcoming United Community Platform (UCP) this year. As you know, FANDOM and Gamepedia will receive a huge renovation for improvements of editor/user/visitor experience planned to allow all extensions currently available to the MediaWiki engine. And due to that, the community will be going through phases of the development. To stay up to date about these upcoming changes, the [[w:c:community:User_blog:MisterWoodhouse/Unified_Community_Platform:_The_Vision,_Purpose,_and_Process|blog]] is available for you to reference. Additionally, please be on the lookout for UCP phase releases and keep the users informed. For any questions and others, as always, please don't hesitate to message me about them, and I will be happy to answer them for you!
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<span style="font-style:italic; font-family:Times New Roman; text-shadow: 1px 1px 1px MidnightBlue;">[[User:SilverFlight|<font color="silver">The Silver wings of Night</font>]]</span> ([[Message Wall:SilverFlight|talk]]) <staff/> 23:47, March 1, 2020 (UTC)
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== Krios/Krios Prime ==
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When you get the chance, could you weigh in on [[Talk:Krios]], please? I don't want to start making changes without more input first. Thanks! --[[User:TimPendragon|TimPendragon]] ([[User talk:TimPendragon|talk]]) 01:35, March 8, 2020 (UTC)
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:I'm at the beginning of a long tunnel of looking at the post-Nemesis sources, i might not get to "Prey" for some time. otherwise, i am not familiar with the ENT era sourcing either
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:if the stopgap solution is to flipflop the two articles just remember that a "move" function should be used and not a "copy paste". i'll keep my eyes open if i can find any logic to contribute - '''''[[user:captainmike|captainmike]]''''' [[file:wiki-wordmarkX.png|69px]] 14:32, March 8, 2020 (UTC)
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::At this point, my best solution would be to merge them into one article, since ''Cast No Shadow'' clearly paints them as the same planet, and according to others, ''Prey'' leaves it an open question. The Enterprise reference is only relevant in that it establishes "Krios Prime" as a name of the planet from "The Perfect Mate". --[[User:TimPendragon|TimPendragon]] ([[User talk:TimPendragon|talk]]) 04:35, March 9, 2020 (UTC)
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==hyronalyn==
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First off, your edit comment comes across as dismissive my own edit comment. This isn't the first time, either, and as Reddit makes clear, I'm not the first one to be dismissed by you. I'll let you address why you feel that is an effective way to build collaborative efforts on a fandom wiki. If you feel being dismissive of peoples' efforts—without providing constructive criticism—then I will walk away and not make any further edits of any type, and will actively encourage others to do so, as well.
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Secondly, citations are supposed to be effective. The ST.com was ''not effective'' by any means. No where on that site can hyronalyn be found, and especially not with the...citation, because it does not link to anything on that site.--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] ([[User talk:Revanche|talk]]) 21:27, March 8, 2020 (UTC)
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:hyronalin is referenced at startrek.com, here's the link: https://www.startrek.com/database_article/hyronalin
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:maybe you should look into these things before you come at me with an attitude. you were wrong and i'm correcting you. you're the problem here - you removed a valid reference -- '''''[[user:captainmike|captainmike]]''''' [[file:wiki-wordmarkX.png|69px]] 21:31, March 8, 2020 (UTC)
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I AM CONFOUNDED- THAT SOMEBODY ELSE'S FACEBOOK PROFILE PAGE COMES UP WHEN I CLICK 'MY FACEBOOK' ON ANY OF MY PERSONAL PAGES ON MEMORY BETA. MY NAME - AND MY FACEBOOK PROFILE PAGE HEADING IS LEWIS FEINLAND. ALADDIN 1 IS MY GIMMICK. SO I WILL CHANGE MY PERSONAL WEB SITE LISTED AS UNDER LEWIS FEINLAND- FACEBEOOK PROFILE PAGE.
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I AM CONFOUNDED- THAT SOMEBODY ELSE'S FACEBOOK PROFILE PAGE COMES UP WHEN I CLICK 'MY FACEBOOK' ON ANY OF MY PERSONAL PAGES ON MEMORY BETA. MY NAME - AND MY FACEBOOK PROFILE PAGE HEADING IS LEWIS FEINLAND. ALADDIN 1 IS MY GIMMICK. SO I WILL CHANGE MY PERSONAL WEB SITE LISTED AS UNDER LEWIS FEINLAND- FACEBEOOK PROFILE PAGE. [[User:Aladdin1|Aladdin1]] ([[User talk:Aladdin1|talk]]) 05:21, March 9, 2020 (UTC)
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== Re: Large scale article creation ==
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"Glian" is actually [[Glirn]], I have fixed that. So you know, the overwhelming majority of these new astronomical object pages have little to no specific known histories as they are mostly mere scenery for the game missions. --[[User:MrThermomanPreacher|MrThermomanPreacher]] ([[User talk:MrThermomanPreacher|talk]]) 11:56, March 18, 2020 (UTC)
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:I understand they are NPC objects and will be short articles. what i'm asking is that you endeavour to take a basic amount of time to avoid errors and also that you add a basic amount of info - subsections, categorizing, etc. the way you are creating them is lacking. -- '''''[[user:captainmike|captainmike]]''''' [[file:wiki-wordmarkX.png|69px]] 12:22, March 18, 2020 (UTC)
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==Star Trek: Picard==
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On [[Jean-Luc Picard]]'s page, i thought it would OK to use some off the information from {{ST|Picard}} in addition to what was written in ''[[The Last Best Hope]]''. Did i jump the gun on that or did not write it up just right?[[User:CC-1990|CC-1990]] ([[User talk:CC-1990|talk]]) 22:33, March 27, 2020 (UTC)
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Please don't put information about his admiralty and retirement as a subsection of the subsection about his Enterprise-E career. his promotion is the end of his Enterprise E career and needs to be in a new subsection
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== Merges ==
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Hey, Mike, when you get the chance, could you take a look at [[Talk:Vhorani]], please? No rush, it's relatively minor and can wait 'til you're not so busy. Just wanted to make sure it didn't get lost in Recentchanges before you spotted it.
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Also, is there a template for a "suggested merge" message? I tried {{tl|merge}}, and that wasn't it, so I looked around and couldn't find anything, not sure if I just missed it somewhere. If not, it would probably come in handy, both to categorize pages that are suggested for merging, and for general awareness of the suggestion. --[[User:TimPendragon|TimPendragon]] ([[User talk:TimPendragon|talk]]) 21:56, March 29, 2020 (UTC)
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:i had seen it and i've been letting the suggestion percolate while i do some other things -- to wit: i was wondering if the Vhorani article might be justified to remain as the 'mythological' people, while the article about Sargon's people of Arret might remain separate as the 'real' people, unclouded by the descriptions of myth. i'm wondering how accessible that source material is.
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:and as to merges, since the process involves essentially dematerializing one article into another, i have in the past used a deletion discussion for any that arent as cut and dried as the merge i did earlier. i suppose this has in fact generated bad blood as deletion discussions tends to promote confrontation. -- '''''[[user:captainmike|captainmike]]''''' [[file:wiki-wordmarkX.png|69px]] 22:01, March 29, 2020 (UTC)
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::They tend to. A separate Merge template and category (similar to Memory Alpha's) would be highly recommended - it makes it clear that data would be retained, not removed. Deletion and Merging are rarely considered the same thing elsewhere, so people's expectations when they see a "delete" message are drastically different vs a "Merge" message. A great example of this is going on over at MA right now, on the Talk:Jean-Luc Picard page. The discussion has gone on for days now, politely, because it was phrased as a merge. I'd hate to think of the bad blood it would have generated if it had been presented as a case for deletion. --[[User:TimPendragon|TimPendragon]] ([[User talk:TimPendragon|talk]]) 22:12, March 29, 2020 (UTC)
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:remembering my time as a MA regular i can still barely repress a shudder at how hopelessly pedantic even a "polite" conversation there could be. i'm toying with doing the opposite - why complicate things (the MA tradition) when we could simplify them.
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:why not "disarm" our deletion criteria -- instead of a deletion discussion, and adding others, lets do them all through one template -- basically make it a play on "f*ck, marry, kill" -- instead of having separate templates for 'delete', 'move' or 'merge', have one template/protocol where users can vote on a selection of those options -- '''''[[user:captainmike|captainmike]]''''' [[file:wiki-wordmarkX.png|69px]] 00:37, April 2, 2020 (UTC)
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::That wouldn't help from an organizational standpoint at all, because then isntead of "articles considered for deletion", "articles considered for renaming" and "articles considered for merging", it would put them all in one category. I don't know about you, but I use categories like that to keep track of "current issues." Lumping them all together would be a ''bloody awful mess,'' and I doubt it would really defuse anything. The "merge" template is ''a standard function of the wiki format'', from Wikipedia itself on down. Nobody complains about it. It doesn't start bad blood. It serves one purpose, that isn't confrontational in any way. We should've been using it all along, and I have no idea why we don't here. --[[User:TimPendragon|TimPendragon]] ([[User talk:TimPendragon|talk]]) 05:00, April 2, 2020 (UTC)
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:The fact that you could easily open a talk page discussion, suggest a merge, and then have the merge enacted by an administrator is exact proof why that is absolutely the wrong approach. the process works, and making it more complicated is not something i have any desire to do -- '''''[[user:captainmike|captainmike]]''''' [[file:wiki-wordmarkX.png|69px]] 00:03, April 3, 2020 (UTC)

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Greetings!Edit

Hi Captainmike, how are you? This is Chen from Fandom. As you may have noticed with the new change of our Community Org, our team will be highly focused on building a closer relationships with our communities, admins and users than before. As one of the Community Managers, I will be together with one of our Wiki Managers to fully support this wiki, help you and other admins solve any issues/concerns on this wiki, partnership with you guys for any exciting relevant projects, and make this wiki more attractive and successful.

Long in short - we are here to fully support any needs you may have to make this community keep growing successfully. If you and other admins need any help, feel free to directly contact us any time. We will be always in touch! Any questions? :)

Cheers!

Chen @fandom

Hi, thanks for the introduction. As a community, we're looking for new blood from the new fans being gained by all the new Star Trek publishing projects while maintaining a healthy respect for the original works from 50 years ago. We've been on cruise control a lot lately but if i can think of anything pertinent I'll drop you a line - captainmike Wiki-wordmark 01:02, June 21, 2019 (UTC)

Wiki Manager IntroductionEdit

Hi! My name is SilverFlight, and I'm the Fandom Wiki Manager for the Memory Beta. I am here to help the community and be a liaison to full-time Fandom staff. If you ever have a question or issue relating to the wiki, editing, etc., please contact me on my talk page.

In addition, I'm happy to inform you that Fandom is upgrading its MediaWiki platform to accommodate MediaWiki extensions. You can read more about here on the blog post.

If you have any questions, let me know how I can help.

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As I mentioned in the last introduction, as a community, we're looking for new blood from the new fans being gained by all the new Star Trek publishing projects while maintaining a healthy respect for the original works from 50 years ago. We've been on cruise control a lot lately but if i can think of anything pertinent I'll drop you a line..
In terms of the upgrade, not sure what to say - I use a lot of editing habits based on the very beginning of the Wikipedia era so i just hope backwards compatibility can be maintained. I've lost a lot of momentum since that last BS of an upgrade we got, and I can't help but notice Wikipedia itself maintains its old austere format and edit simplicity without the bells and whistles fandom has seen fit to add here - captainmike Wiki-wordmark 12:51, June 22, 2019 (UTC)

Hi Captainmike,

On the main page I was curious that, since Discovery technically comes before The Original Series and after Early Voyages, should it show up there on the Series box on the right-hand side of the main page, rather than after The Animated Series? Navypiper (talk) 13:22, July 4, 2019 (UTC)


They aren't in a strict chronological order. captainmike Wiki-wordmark 12:34, July 4, 2019 (UTC)

Fandom DiscordEdit

Hello!

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The Silver wings of Night (talk) 02:37, July 11, 2019 (UTC)

Hi I need a little help of the Dassik species that I put there from the novel called 'The Face of the Unknown' and I was hoping if anyone can finished it as well as the Cheronians species from the novel called 'No Time Like the Past' ok

Put something a little about the Tessegri, some help please I don't got the TOS book called "The Face of the Unknown", it would you or anyone can do it along with the other First Federation races.

Re: Image Uploads Edit

Added the issue source for all the covers I uploaded so far. And fixed the categories as well. Sorry for the inconvenience! ^^Hakka84 (talk) 19:48, July 29, 2019 (UTC)

Rename photo Edit

Hoping I'm asking the right mod. I uploaded a photo before renaming it. Is there any chance that this cover picture could be renamed to a more proper Stranger_Worlds_1_RE_Nerdblock ? I be quick to fix any broken links, in case! Thank you in advance.Hakka84 (talk) 03:38, July 30, 2019 (UTC)

Did you get my last message of the color for the First Federation because I think it would cool if it needs a color if the First Federation is a minor state of the Alpha Quadrant. The number for the color is 'ffba66'. And the color for the Talarian Republic is b8b800.

Analytics UpdateEdit

Hi again! I would like to inform you there is a new Special:Analytics page you can request and access on the admin dashboard! In this way, you can use it to keep track of the number of edits daily, and which users are contributing. More info is available on the Help:Analytics dashboard and the blog post. If you already knew about it but have any questions, let me know!

The Silver wings of Night (talk) 22:29, August 11, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, how often is this re-cached/updated? -- captainmike Wiki-wordmark 15:10, August 12, 2019 (UTC)

SCE two-parters Edit

I notice you've been been moving content from Invincible to the newer articles Invincible, Part One and Invincible, Part Two.

Are you planning to create single-story articles for the other SCE two-parters? If so, are you then going to delete the multi-story articles after you've finished moving content to the single-story articles? When adding references, should I add them to the single-story articles or the multi-story article? --NetSpiker (talk) 05:17, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

This was a decision i pushed for years ago and am only getting around to doing the work now -- it was regarding the overall size and complexity of Avatar and The Left Hand of Destiny as merged articles (their reference lists are much mre effective as individual articles for each part of those duologies.
The references should all be migrated to the articles of each single part.
The multi-story articles are the "story arc" -- they should be categorized and maintained as such. they do not require reference lists. A story arc article is structured the same way as a miniseries (or duology or trilogy) article, re: Double Blind, Fortunes of War, The Return of Harry Mudd, Worlds Apart, Avatar, etc. -- captainmike Wiki-wordmark 23:27, August 15, 2019 (UTC)
just realized, What's Past is a decent model of the structure of a duology/trilogy/miniseries/story arc article

A little help with the picture of Koss and a Klingon named Nu'Daq

Editor RewardsEdit

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The Silver wings of Night (talk) 19:09, August 30, 2019 (UTC)

Alidar Jarok imageEdit

I know my last Alidar Jarok image was of excessive size, I have uploaded a new image, the size is 366 KB, is that size acceptable to you?.--Typhuss999 (talk) 19:53, September 8, 2019 (UTC)

I honestly don't remember the image that was replaced, but "size" in the case of my troubleshooting refers to images over 1600px on their longest edge. Those are too large.
In this case, the new image you added is not preferable, as I replaced it with a robust image. The one you uploaded over mine was darker and had less focus on the subject due to being cropped in a different way. I don't understand why you felt like the one I put up needed to be replaced - its of good dimension, has a good crop and depicts the correct subject. What's the problem with leaving the image alone? -- captainmike Wiki-wordmark 20:25, September 8, 2019 (UTC)

I just thought it was better because its HD from the remastered version of TNG, but if you want it stay that way you have it, fine, ok. You don't like HD images from the remastered version of TNG?.--Typhuss999 (talk) 20:34, September 8, 2019 (UTC)

The one that was being replaced is ALSO from the remastered HD - it is just color corrected somewhat differently. The issue isn't the HD remasters. Both images are from the HD remaster. -- captainmike Wiki-wordmark 20:36, September 8, 2019 (UTC)

Ok, I see, its fine then.--Typhuss999 (talk) 20:38, September 8, 2019 (UTC)

I will not change it then, seeing you pefer it this way, ok.--Typhuss999 (talk) 20:39, September 8, 2019 (UTC)

Global TaxonomyEdit

Hi there! I'm happy to introduce to you the new feature called the Global Taxonomy. This formula accumulates wikis a user visits and generates a list of recommended wikis for them to visit. In other words, people who have an interest in a topic or genre you entail will be recommended a chance to visit this wiki! That will be perfect for garnering visitors here. You can read more about it on the blog, plus if you're interested in template use, you can check out this link, too. Hope you find them helpful!

The Silver wings of Night (talk)
@fandom 22:10, December 1, 2019 (UTC)

fanfiction Edit

can i put fan fiction here. --Owen 23:18, December 5, 2019 (UTC)

no. --Captainmike 23:04, December 5, 2019 (EST)

End of the YearEdit

Hi there! Quick update on FANDOM's end-of-the-year term. First, there will be changes with featured videos: as of the end of this December, "Featured" Video will be receiving some trial run experiments in hopes of improving its quality, reasons being that videos featured on a page tend to be outdated or spout all the information the user can already read on the article. The main goal will be to figure out how to complement wiki content. Because of that, you might receive a video called "The Loop" play for anonymous users, that will be meant purely to collect visitation data in vein of the Global Taxonomy method. It won't affect all users, so you might not notice. But if you want to learn more, you can go to the blog post. For more info on Fandom's year in review, you can check out the community post. Let me know if you have any questions, and happy holidays!

The Silver wings of Night (talk)
@fandom 18:54, December 21, 2019 (UTC)

To answer your recent edit comments: Edit

You wrote:

if you knew it was from Modiphius why couldn't you just paste in the correct attribution?

Well, because I didn't know that was possible. When uploading an image, as I'm sure you know, it offers a dropdown list of attribution templates. There wasn't one for Modiphius, and I didn't see one where I could insert a source manually. Make sense? In that list, there's the templates for Cryptic, Pocket, etc, and the only other ones are "unknown," for the uploader to credit themselves, or general "fairuse." "Other, please insert here" isn't an option. So I didn't know that I could. I had no idea that a general {{imagesouce}} template existed until now, looking at how you edited the image I uploaded. If you don't want people to make the same mistake I did, then that should be made an option somehow on the image upload page. --TimPendragon (talk) 14:47, January 31, 2020 (UTC)

I will add the option the next time i am working from my home computer now that they are a major release. when i'm out and about i can't get too in depth about admin functions for the sake of propriety. i am aware the drop down exists but as you can see from my edits i tend to just code the template myself, since it has such a simple (one word followed by one required parameter) keystroke.
so, you were looking at it a from a different angle than myself and other contributors, but your suggestion is valuable as the special characters are hard to type (another reason i can't edit at the same caliber when traveling away from my home setup). thank you for the valuable suggestion
most of the drop down options are coded to flag the images for attention because they are intended only for walk-up users, experienced editors are expected to paint in broader strokes -- captainmike Wiki-wordmark 16:31, January 31, 2020 (UTC)

Help with Template syntax? Edit

Hi, Mike. I hate to bother you with this, but I'm nearing my wit's end. I've been asked to help out on the wiki for Clear Skies, a Star Trek: Adventures RPG streaming show, and I've been trying to add some basic templates for citation and such. If you have a moment, could you please help me understand the syntax I need for something? I've researched and have found little relevant, and I've have asked on the Fandom Community help, and their responses haven't really been at all helpful.

I have this template set up, but I want to get it to the point where we can have multiple parameters, and typing {ep|1.1|1.2|1.4} would give "Episode Name", "Episode Name", "Episode Name" for example. I know I probably need to move the #switch data to a subpage like Template:Ep/switch or something to that effect, and there's #if syntax involved. I'm just not sure exactly how it needs to be formatted. Basically, I just want it to be like typing {TNG|Relics|Datalore|All Good Things} and have it properly list them with commas, like it would on Memory Alpha.

As I said, I'm sorry to bother you with this, but I figure you might know, and these days, I don't know who else to ask that's still active. --TimPendragon (talk) 17:37, February 27, 2020 (UTC)

Nevermind, someone else saw and was able to help. :-) --TimPendragon (talk) 19:21, February 28, 2020 (UTC)
Sorry I couldn't be more help, i was away for a few days. those templates work pretty well but they do tend to let spaces " " gang up on you if you have all the code lined up in rows. i mostly just copy paste other wikis and have to do a lot of weird test phases. -- captainmike Wiki-wordmark 15:09, February 29, 2020 (UTC)

UCPEdit

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Krios/Krios Prime Edit

When you get the chance, could you weigh in on Talk:Krios, please? I don't want to start making changes without more input first. Thanks! --TimPendragon (talk) 01:35, March 8, 2020 (UTC)

I'm at the beginning of a long tunnel of looking at the post-Nemesis sources, i might not get to "Prey" for some time. otherwise, i am not familiar with the ENT era sourcing either
if the stopgap solution is to flipflop the two articles just remember that a "move" function should be used and not a "copy paste". i'll keep my eyes open if i can find any logic to contribute - captainmike Wiki-wordmark 14:32, March 8, 2020 (UTC)
At this point, my best solution would be to merge them into one article, since Cast No Shadow clearly paints them as the same planet, and according to others, Prey leaves it an open question. The Enterprise reference is only relevant in that it establishes "Krios Prime" as a name of the planet from "The Perfect Mate". --TimPendragon (talk) 04:35, March 9, 2020 (UTC)

hyronalynEdit

First off, your edit comment comes across as dismissive my own edit comment. This isn't the first time, either, and as Reddit makes clear, I'm not the first one to be dismissed by you. I'll let you address why you feel that is an effective way to build collaborative efforts on a fandom wiki. If you feel being dismissive of peoples' efforts—without providing constructive criticism—then I will walk away and not make any further edits of any type, and will actively encourage others to do so, as well.

Secondly, citations are supposed to be effective. The ST.com was not effective by any means. No where on that site can hyronalyn be found, and especially not with the...citation, because it does not link to anything on that site.--Revanche (talk) 21:27, March 8, 2020 (UTC)

hyronalin is referenced at startrek.com, here's the link: https://www.startrek.com/database_article/hyronalin
maybe you should look into these things before you come at me with an attitude. you were wrong and i'm correcting you. you're the problem here - you removed a valid reference -- captainmike Wiki-wordmark 21:31, March 8, 2020 (UTC)

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Re: Large scale article creation Edit

"Glian" is actually Glirn, I have fixed that. So you know, the overwhelming majority of these new astronomical object pages have little to no specific known histories as they are mostly mere scenery for the game missions. --MrThermomanPreacher (talk) 11:56, March 18, 2020 (UTC)

I understand they are NPC objects and will be short articles. what i'm asking is that you endeavour to take a basic amount of time to avoid errors and also that you add a basic amount of info - subsections, categorizing, etc. the way you are creating them is lacking. -- captainmike Wiki-wordmark 12:22, March 18, 2020 (UTC)

Star Trek: PicardEdit

On Jean-Luc Picard's page, i thought it would OK to use some off the information from Picard in addition to what was written in The Last Best Hope. Did i jump the gun on that or did not write it up just right?CC-1990 (talk) 22:33, March 27, 2020 (UTC)

Please don't put information about his admiralty and retirement as a subsection of the subsection about his Enterprise-E career. his promotion is the end of his Enterprise E career and needs to be in a new subsection

Merges Edit

Hey, Mike, when you get the chance, could you take a look at Talk:Vhorani, please? No rush, it's relatively minor and can wait 'til you're not so busy. Just wanted to make sure it didn't get lost in Recentchanges before you spotted it.

Also, is there a template for a "suggested merge" message? I tried {{merge}}, and that wasn't it, so I looked around and couldn't find anything, not sure if I just missed it somewhere. If not, it would probably come in handy, both to categorize pages that are suggested for merging, and for general awareness of the suggestion. --TimPendragon (talk) 21:56, March 29, 2020 (UTC)

i had seen it and i've been letting the suggestion percolate while i do some other things -- to wit: i was wondering if the Vhorani article might be justified to remain as the 'mythological' people, while the article about Sargon's people of Arret might remain separate as the 'real' people, unclouded by the descriptions of myth. i'm wondering how accessible that source material is.
and as to merges, since the process involves essentially dematerializing one article into another, i have in the past used a deletion discussion for any that arent as cut and dried as the merge i did earlier. i suppose this has in fact generated bad blood as deletion discussions tends to promote confrontation. -- captainmike Wiki-wordmark 22:01, March 29, 2020 (UTC)
They tend to. A separate Merge template and category (similar to Memory Alpha's) would be highly recommended - it makes it clear that data would be retained, not removed. Deletion and Merging are rarely considered the same thing elsewhere, so people's expectations when they see a "delete" message are drastically different vs a "Merge" message. A great example of this is going on over at MA right now, on the Talk:Jean-Luc Picard page. The discussion has gone on for days now, politely, because it was phrased as a merge. I'd hate to think of the bad blood it would have generated if it had been presented as a case for deletion. --TimPendragon (talk) 22:12, March 29, 2020 (UTC)
remembering my time as a MA regular i can still barely repress a shudder at how hopelessly pedantic even a "polite" conversation there could be. i'm toying with doing the opposite - why complicate things (the MA tradition) when we could simplify them.
why not "disarm" our deletion criteria -- instead of a deletion discussion, and adding others, lets do them all through one template -- basically make it a play on "f*ck, marry, kill" -- instead of having separate templates for 'delete', 'move' or 'merge', have one template/protocol where users can vote on a selection of those options -- captainmike Wiki-wordmark 00:37, April 2, 2020 (UTC)
That wouldn't help from an organizational standpoint at all, because then isntead of "articles considered for deletion", "articles considered for renaming" and "articles considered for merging", it would put them all in one category. I don't know about you, but I use categories like that to keep track of "current issues." Lumping them all together would be a bloody awful mess, and I doubt it would really defuse anything. The "merge" template is a standard function of the wiki format, from Wikipedia itself on down. Nobody complains about it. It doesn't start bad blood. It serves one purpose, that isn't confrontational in any way. We should've been using it all along, and I have no idea why we don't here. --TimPendragon (talk) 05:00, April 2, 2020 (UTC)
The fact that you could easily open a talk page discussion, suggest a merge, and then have the merge enacted by an administrator is exact proof why that is absolutely the wrong approach. the process works, and making it more complicated is not something i have any desire to do -- captainmike Wiki-wordmark 00:03, April 3, 2020 (UTC)
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