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Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! Captainmike (talk) 18:41, February 2, 2017 (UTC)


Hey Meacott, thanks for all of your contributions, especially on the manga! Whenever you make these contributions, just a few requests. Make sure you create links to everything in the references section. I know red links don't look the greatest, but we need those links so we know what articles we need. Also can you make sure you include a category with any new pages you create. Also, for other formatting information please look at Memory Beta:Style as well as some of our completed articles. Thanks!--Long Live the United Earth (talk) 04:00, February 8, 2017 (UTC)

Image attribution

Please be aware that image uploads must have information about the source, we cannot have images with no information about what they are and where they are from. Unless you cite, describe and attribute images you upload, i'm afraid we'll be deleting them all -- Captain MKB 14:29, February 26, 2017 (UTC)

I hadn't realized that; thanks for letting me know. I'll look up the procedure for attribution and add them retroactively to the images I've uploaded. --Meacott (talk) 17:08, February 26, 2017 (UTC)
I've noticed that user:admiral Markonian is also following through with some of your images now that i marked them - the admiral's pretty good with these too so they should be good models to base your documentation on -- Captain MKB 18:15, February 26, 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for dealing with all of those so well, i was afraid it would take more effort to address your learning curve on the image attributions. -- Captain MKB 02:25, March 2, 2017 (UTC)

No problem... the examples from you and user:admiral Markonian were extremely helpful in getting the syntax right.--Meacott (talk) 19:07, March 2, 2017 (UTC)
With the information having been adjusted accordingly, i think a lot of the comic and manga images are unique and would look great as Pic of the Day images on the front page. -- Captain MKB 02:25, March 2, 2017 (UTC)
I agree, some are definitely unique! The Template:PicOfTheDay page says to pick any red-linked day to add an image, but all the links seem to be assigned already.--Meacott (talk) 19:07, March 2, 2017 (UTC)
No problem - a user consensus has determined that those images that are screencaps from canon are extraneous and can be re-allocated to our preferred medium, publications. :) - Captain MKB 22:21, March 2, 2017 (UTC)

Image citations

For citing an image to its specific source, you can (and should) call the template {{c-img}} (instead of {{c}}) and it will automatically add the subcat parameter for "comic images" and "TOS comic images" - just FYI -- captainmike Wiki-wordmark.png 02:02, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Will do! I see also from some you've updated (in particular for personnel and ships) that there are other many helpful subcategories that help categorize them. I'll start adding those where appropriate.--Meacott (talk) 18:23, April 2, 2017 (UTC)
the subcategorizations have been growing a very granular category tree so myself and others have been 'testing the waters' to try and make effective policy choices on subcategorization protocols - but we havent documented much because it's still a work in progress - we welcome your observstion, use and commentary! - captainmike Wiki-wordmark.png 16:51, April 3, 2017 (UTC)
adding to above: keep in mind the new image citation formats: {{e-img}} (rather than {{e}}) for episode images. -- captainmike Wiki-wordmark.png 03:35, July 22, 2017 (UTC)

Rats, I've been forgetting to double check that. I'll be sure keep it in mind going forward. Thanks for reminding me!--Meacott (talk) 03:18, July 23, 2017 (UTC)

Image alterations

Hi Meacott, i just wanted to check with you regarding alterations to images - while 'under the hood' changes like brightness and cropping are nominally OK, i just wanted to make sure we can go forward without mutilating images (i.e. removing text from word balloons).

i've found that it is a lot of effort for not much result, and in previous discussions on MB we have disallowed the practice, as spelled out by our image approval process, which requires a community vote to approve such changes to stock images. -- captainmike Wiki-wordmark.png 15:24, January 7, 2018 (UTC)

Will do. I'd seen the practice done on character images and they seemed to look better. But I see from the wiki perspective that this can be considered an alteration, rather than a scan clean-up.--Meacott (talk) 19:50, January 7, 2018 (UTC)

link formatting

Please see my most recent edits to pages such as the Klingon Dreadnought class and dreadnought cannon on how to properly format links. - Bell'Orso (talk) 18:38, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, the Dreadnought-class formatting is far more elegant, thanks for bringing it to my attention! --Meacott (talk) 21:23, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
I wasn't just talking about links that go to "Dreadnought-class", but also those that go out from it, like the ones that go to "QuchHa'" and "HemQuch". As you can see there, it's better to wrap the italic formatting around the link instead of including it in the link itself. This way, it saves on a few bits every time and helps keep the page from getting unneccessarily large. - Bell'Orso (talk) 10:14, May 18, 2018 (UTC)

Facts about Anzar

Hi, I just edited the Anzar article and noticed he's listed as category:humanoids, but on his image you uploaded he is categorized as one of our images of Humans... so which is it? If there's no reference to him bein Human, could you tailor the images of him to categorize as humanoid instead? Or if the story references him as a Human, could you fix his category? Its a lot easier to copyedit these articles when we have our facts straight

also: for image categorizations, theres no need for redundancy - a 23rd century Human image does not need a redundant listing as an image of a Human (differing from the articles which need both).. also, we capitalize "H"uman here so if you've been categorizing people or images as 23rd century "h"umans, all those will need correcting - captainmike Wiki-wordmarkX.png 00:13, August 14, 2018 (UTC)

The story doesn't specify Anzar's species; I'll change his image category to Humanoid. I'll double-check and update anyone I'd categorized as lower-case human or humanoid. Thanks for clarifying!--Meacott (talk) 14:47, August 14, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks... you've become one of our most prolific contributors, but that's a double edged sword -- you add so much, so making sure its going to 'gel' well with everything, while being added in great amounts, takes a bit of oversight. I am very grateful at whatever help you can give making these puzzle pieces fit together with the growth of Memory Beta.

In terms of corrections, Sulfur popped in and grabbed some categorizations last night, and I tried to snag a few (thankfully, tagging any data can be optimized simply by following the tags)... -- captainmike Wiki-wordmarkX.png 01:32, August 15, 2018 (UTC)

Glad to help. We now have 166 images categorized as Memory Beta images (humanoids) and 1,299 items categorized as Memory Beta images (Humans), with no images categorized as Humanoids or humans. --Meacott (talk) 13:33, August 15, 2018 (UTC)

Hello Meacott

Hello Meacott,

Good work on how you have been expanding the New Visions pages I made all that time ago back when the series was still going on. It was always my intention to expand them myself with summaries (and I should probably also have looked into what connection they had to episodes as well as some images from the comic) but one reason what held me back is that I have a tendency to write overcomplicated summaries when just a handful of block paragraphs are much more sufficient (I basically write down the entire story) Another reason was that because of my mental state I wasn't very motivated or inspired.

I had been thinking of messaging you to ask if there was anything I could help you with on these articles but you seem to handle it well.

Good work--The Dutch Ghost (talk) 22:46, November 28, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words! Tackling some novels taught me how write more concise summaries. I could use help figuring out where the unplaced New Visions stories fit into the MB timeline — your expertise with these stories greatly exceeds mine! --Meacott (talk) 17:53, November 29, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry for the late response. I have these moments that I find it difficult to focus (perhaps because of depression). That is also something that I wanted to bring up during the conversation. But regarding helping you out with placing the New Visions (or any other comics after the DC run) in the proper MB timeline, I'll gladly help you out when I am capable of it. Hmm, I can't post my Email address here as otherwise I would have suggested that you contact me there with any questions. --The Dutch Ghost (talk) 10:50, December 15, 2018 (UTC)

Hello Meacott, do you still want me to help with some of the questions you have regarding the Star Trek comics? I can help you with Original Series, TNG, DSN, and VGR.--The Dutch Ghost (talk) 19:08, January 30, 2019 (UTC)
Two interesting ones come to mind with New Visions. 1) At what point did M'Ress first come aboard the Enterprise ("Those Who Play With Cats…")? Was it directly prior to Beyond the Farthest Star in 2269 or did she have a previous appearance in a comic? 2) Kirk visited various points in his timeline in "Time Out of Joint" — but when precisely did he go for each visit? --Meacott (talk) 22:12, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Hi Meacott, I am currently going through all the issues again in order to give you a complete answer. So far it seems that M'Ress first appearance in New Visions was indeed "Those who play with cats"

As for the time periods Kirk visited during "Time out of joint", one is definitely 2261 when Kirk had a short romantic relationship with Janet Wallace. Another visit may take place just some time before "Who mourns for Adonais" but I need to check to be sure. Will keep you updated. --The Dutch Ghost (talk) 17:43, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Hey Meacott,

I like all the expansion text you have been doing on the New Visions comics. Any current series you are updating here on Memory Beta--The Dutch Ghost (talk) 03:16, February 16, 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! I have done some work on the recent Waypoint and Transformers stories, and I will be diving back into New Visions soon too.--Meacott (talk) 21:15, February 16, 2020 (UTC)
If you need any material or images from the New Visions comics give me a call.--The Dutch Ghost (talk) 14:22, February 18, 2020 (UTC)

Are you in a mood for helping me for other species of the First Federation from a Star Trek novel called 'The Face of the Unknown' if you have that book. If not that's okay, I don't have it either at least not yet. Starting with the Tessegri if you please

Sure, I have the paperback, I'll see what I can do.--Meacott (talk) 23:01, July 23, 2019 (UTC)

Ok I still didn't get that paperback but I put some info boxes for the Tessegri and the Kisaja species I don't know if either of them are humanoid or something and however the First Federation state need some color like any other interstellar states. If you have access or not ask someone for help if you could. The color number for the First Federation is FFBA66.

Thanks for getting more information of the races of the First Federation, if you still have access of the color for the First Federation with the numbers that I gave you, and can you bring more information of the Cheronians from the novel "No Time Like the Past." such as their names and history beside Bele, and Lokai.

I'm curious about them as well. I don't have that book yet, but I'll see if I can track down a copy.--Meacott (talk) 22:47, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

Ok, but you did good on those First Federation races, but need help with the Dassik species such as their physiology if you please.

I also need help with this so called the 'Web of Worlds'.

I looked at the Web of Worlds, and who were the other races like the Kalibikil, the Syletir, the Vea-Shol and other races in red can at least you can help to fill in the blanks for me.

Disambiguation pages

Just FYI, if there's no single "base" term, then the page should be there, with "base (disammbiguation)" acting as a redirect over to it. The only time a disambiguation page should be found at "base (disambiguation)" is when there's a single applicable page to go there (for example "Kalor" should be at "Kalor" as there are 3-4 different Kalors in the universe, but "Vasquez" only has one of those with JUST that name, so its disambiguation page would be at "disambiguation").

As such, I've fixed the Kalor change you made so that "disambiguation" is the redirect. -- sulfur (talk) 15:43, November 10, 2019 (UTC)

Gotcha, thank you for the clarification!--Meacott (talk) 15:45, November 10, 2019 (UTC)

The Third Party

Hi Meacott. The Memory Alpha article Fourth UK Story Arc says that a character named Kirby appeared in the story, but he's not listed on Memory Beta's The Third Party article. Can you check to see if he really appears in the story? --NetSpiker (talk) 09:56, February 5, 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for catching these. Had to reread the story twice before finding Kirby's reference in the May 10, 1969 edition.--Meacott (talk) 22:19, February 6, 2020 (UTC)

Same request for "Sondar" from the Eleventh UK Story Arc article. --NetSpiker (talk) 10:06, February 5, 2020 (UTC)

I found Sontar in the Feb 7, 1970 edition. Both now have pages on MB, thanks!--Meacott (talk) 22:19, February 6, 2020 (UTC)

Star vs binary star

Hi MEacott, great work on all the comics additions as always. I've been weeding through and have been finding everything in excellent shape

One thing I did note was that you've added {{star}} to some binary stars ad the sidebar box - this is a use a little outside of the original boundary of how {{star}} was originally supposed to work, as it has a multitude of features regarding the spectral class of the star - and a binary star could have two stars of different classes, making the template sidebar a mismash.

At this point, i'm not sure if i should tell you to halt this edit behavior, as those articles could probably use some sort of sidebar and we might be able to edit {{star}} to accommodate other data -- but I'm nowhere near having enough time to start coding such a thing so i just wanted you to be aware in case you get in a pickle trying to craft one that might not work right. -- captainmike Wiki-wordmarkX.png 23:13, May 7, 2020 (UTC)

That's a good point I hadn't thought of, particularly with the most recent one I edited, Epsilon Boötis, where we know the class of one of the stars but not the other. I'll hold off on those for now. Thanks for noticing, and for pointing it out.--Meacott (talk) 01:16, May 8, 2020 (UTC)


I gave you a shoutout on Memory Beta:Requests for adminship if you want to go see -- captainmike Wiki-wordmarkX.png 22:16, May 15, 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much!!--Meacott (talk) 23:02, May 15, 2020 (UTC)

Administrator confirmation

Congratulations, and may the Great Bird of the Galaxy have mercy on your soul. I've confirmed your administratorship as of this stardate.

My best advice is to start slow, and don't be afraid to ask another admin or bureaucrat for pointers. In fact, any user situation you feel might be in need of moderation, start the conversation with a question, and let the tone of the answer inform you as much as the content.

Deletions and moves are pretty straightforward, and i keep forgetting to do a demonstration of a proper pagemove, as that is the biggest can of worms you might have to deal with. Once you combine the history of two articles, it is very hard to diverge them again. We'll talk more later, and thanks for being patient. its been a wild summer here in the U.S. -- captainmike Wiki-wordmarkX.png 22:01, July 23, 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much, and the granting of mercy is appreciated!--Meacott (talk) 16:23, July 24, 2020 (UTC)

Interest in Fascist governments

Great job on the 'Interstellar Axis' can you do the same for the 'Vulcan Star Empire' as well as the 'Alliance of Free Planets' and something called the 'Raumwaffe' if you please? The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]) .

Hi Meacott, just a word to confer, be careful of anon users suggesting we divert resources to citing articles about fascism and Nazi governments in Star Trek -- in particular, users who arent troubled to sign talk page posts or learn any of the general principles of the wiki.
In the past, i was fascinated by the many military storylines of Star Trek, but in the current political era, i fear that anonymous users might be using these minor footnotes in Star Trek history to try and steer the content of the wiki to describe a number of.. unpleasant variations of the Star Trek storyline. I'm especially disappointed at anonymous users who seem to think we're responding to requests, and who take no effort to even learn the simplest aspects of signing their posts.
in short, beware of trolls, and remind them of policy -- captainmike Wiki-wordmarkX.png 00:27, August 13, 2020 (UTC)
Excellent advice, thanks! --Meacott (talk) 16:30, August 14, 2020 (UTC)

I'm not interested in fascist governments, I just thought you want to finished the rest of the organizations including the Vulcan Star Empire and put inboxes there.

Start learning how to sign your posts, cite your articles, or you'll be shown out of this wiki. end of story -- captainmike Wiki-wordmarkX.png

Assigning affiliations and component arity to star systems

I noticed the Hydra Epsilon was created with the sidebar and categorization of a star (and not a star system) -- with at least one planet in orbit it's 'definitely a star system and should have had that category. Furthermore, was it pointed out in the story that it was a singular star? Multiple stars are not stars, they are star systems - and we cannot determine if a star is singular unless the source states that it is not a binary, trinary, etc. No star system should use the "star" category and sidebar unless that's the case.

Since Epsilon Hydra is a real star, we can see it is a multiple and expand the article accordingly. If the source said a singular star was being referred to - it's probably a component of the E Hydra group. Situations like this are why we never assume a system is singular unless explicitly informed.

On the topic of affiliation - "in or near" Federation space doesnt necessarily define it as requiring the Federation color code or category, does it? Just trying to make sure we're creating new articles with the right formatting by making those aspects match the text (and source) -- captainmike Wiki-wordmarkX.png 16:52, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Excellent points. The story did not specify the star's arity or explicitly state that it was in Federation space, so it's correct to represent it as a system with non-Fed colors (or as a Klingon system if 24th century sources say so). These are very helpful guidelines, thanks. -- Meacott (talk) 17:24, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your attention to it. i know its kind of a complication that i decided (all those years ago) to combine stars with systems but i think it keeps the wiki trim (imagine if every speck on the map had two articles like the former Sol and Sol system separation) -- captainmike Wiki-wordmarkX.png 00:11, 10 December 2020 (UTC)


saw that you did an immediate delete for a marketing vandal -- thanks for keeping an eye on admin tasks -- captainmike Wiki-wordmarkX.png 00:11, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Phase II continuity and POV

please keep in mind that articles are written from the POV of the Star Trek universe. mentions of "in the Phase II continuity" do NOT belong in paragraphs. Such background material that is from the "real" POV must be placed in background sections, and not the body of the article. -- captainmike Wiki-wordmarkX.png 22:44, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

I appreciate your calling out that mistake. I'll remove it from the pages you're referencing, thanks. -- Meacott (talk) 17:38, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
I found one and i decided to try and tighten up the writing into something a bit more crafted to our POV here on MB
"In an alternate version of events, …"
I'm hoping to get my Phase II book returned to me soon so i can start work on locations referenced therein, just wanted to share this with you as a best practice. its definitely a puzzle trying to reference these things that are from a different version of the overall Star trek story. -- captainmike Wiki-wordmarkX.png 16:04, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

The Serpent Factor

I've just read The Serpent Factor article that you recently created and I wanted to clarify with you that the story identifies Harry Price as the Merchantman/SS Eileen captain and Hans Markheim as the Merchantman/SS Eileen first officer. If so, I would like to add this information to Memory Alpha's Merchantman personnel page. --NetSpiker (talk) 13:21, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes, that's correct, and it'd be a great addition for MA, thanks. I'll add them to MB's personnel page shortly. The "alien crewman" is chief engineer S'lith, a Sorvalo from Sorvalo VI. --Meacott (talk) 13:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

A couple things

Hi Meacott,

I've been thinking about showcasing "non-canon only" recurring characters for a potential portal or spotlight page and, going back to the beginning, there are very few in comics in the old days. I added notes to Dr. Krisp, Manning and Frank Tanka -- the first two being the only recurring characters i know of from Gold Key and the later being the sole recurring from Peter Pan.

I was wondering if you knew how many characters recurred from one storyline to another in the comic strips, off the top of your head, or if such info is complete and available in your cataloguing of those. I realize that characters recurr all the time between individual strips in one storyline, but were there a great many who bridged one named story to another? Anyway this is an open-ended idea so any kind of list you might have or put together in the future would be a cool addition once i get it up to speed.

Also, a suggestion was made that certain Phase II episodes articles might need pruning as the scripts themselves weren't published, just the synopses. Obviously the scripts have a great many references but we'll have to overlook those and stick to the material printed in the Phase II book. I dont have any timetable for doing that work, but i wanted to let you know i'm unofficially starting to survey those for modification. -- captainmike Wiki-wordmarkX.png 00:29, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the head's up on Phase II. Regarding non-canon original characters, In the UK comics, Admiral Voysey had four appearances in 1971-1973 (#26, 29, 32, 37), Hurst had three in 1969-1970 (2, 7, annual 5), and Brad appeared in 1969 & 1973 (arc 37, annual 1). An unnamed admiral also appeared twice in 1971 (#21, 22). During Marvel's first run, Fletcher had three appearances in 1980-1981 (#9, 14, 16). In the US strips, Umeki had four appearances (#9, 10, 11, 12), Thomas Hadley had four (#9, 10, 12, 13), Taskul had three (#2, 4, 6), Greywolf had two (#5, 6), Kolak had two (#10, 11), and Marsha Latham had two (#11, 12). -- Meacott (talk) 11:58, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Discord server for Memory Beta

Hey Meacott, how are you doing? I'm Cörey, the Wiki Representative for Memory Beta.

I've been working on a Discord server for Memory Beta and would like to invite you to join and give a bit of feedback. The server is still a work-in-progress, but I'm hoping to have it ready to launch within the next couple weeks.

I'm hoping to see you there. 🙂

× Cörey (talk) 00:11, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Done! --Meacott (talk) 14:42, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Stardate Magazine stories

Hi Meacott. I'm planning to start a read-through of the entire Star Trek universe in publication order, but I only consider a story to be part of my personal canon if it includes at least one canon character or at least one non-canon character who has met a canon character in another story.

Since some of the Stardate Magazine stories don't have articles yet, I don't know if they are part of my personal canon or not and whether or not I should buy them. Since you've created a number of articles for Stardate Magazine stories, I was hoping you would be able to tell me which characters appear in the stories that don't have articles yet. Can you help me? --NetSpiker (talk) 08:09, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Sure thing. I haven't read them yet, but after glancing through them, here's my estimate of their relation to canon characters:

Thank you for taking the time to go through them for me. I really appreciate it. --NetSpiker (talk) 00:40, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

No problem! Bela Oxmyx and Jojo Krako do appear in "Another Piece of the Action". The module even has character bios for them. -- Meacott (talk) 17:09, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

The Void of Storms

Hi Meacott,

I've noticed a discrepancy between Memory Beta's The Void of Storms article and Memory Alpha's article. Specifically, Memory Alpha lists Stakka Vrett as two separate characters: Stakka and Vrett. Do you mind checking the comic to find out which is correct? --NetSpiker (talk) 11:43, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Yep, I think MA got it wrong. Stakka appears in the last two panels of the first segment. There, he is wearing a headset and addressed as Stakka by his captain as he's ordered to notify their base that Kirk will be visiting Zentar. In the next panel, in closeup he mutters to himself that Kirk's days are numbered. In the middle of the second segment, we get another closeup of the exact same person, still wearing a headset, with the caption identifying him as Vrett, the radio operator. He then contacts his cousin Zar to plot the demise of Kirk. So Stakka and Vrett are the same person. My thought was that a captain might call him by his first name, but a caption wouldn't, so the man's name is Stakka Vrett. -- Meacott (talk) 13:27, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Okay, I've changed the Memory Alpha page. Thanks. --NetSpiker (talk) 13:41, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Fandom Desktop

Howdy! I've been working on getting this wiki ready for migration to Fandom Desktop. It looks pretty good at the moment and I think it's ready — would you agree? If you agree, please can you click the button in Admin Dashboard that says the wiki is ready for Fandom Desktop?

Let me know if you have any questions! Original Authority[talk] 17:34, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Quadrant locations

I noticed that some time back (one year ago yesterday actually) you added some quadrant locations from the Decipher RPG book Aliens (the example i'm looking at is Marrab sector) - i was wondering what mechanism the book used to assign the quadrants to the locations - was it text, a graphic, or were whole chapters separated on the basis of quadrant? thanks in advance if you can check for me, that's a rare book and i lost my PDF -- captainmike •••• 00:46, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

It's just text, in this case under the Devidians entry: "The Devidians are native to Devidia II, a planet in the Marrab sector of the Alpha Quadrant." The book is organized alphabetically by species, with no subsections. -- Meacott (talk) 12:40, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! I was greedily hoping for more maps. -- captainmike •••• 13:58, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Moving away from Fandom (alternative hosting)

Hi, before you click away and think I'm a spammer please just hear me out. I personally am quite a fan of Star Trek and am disappointed that the only wiki that exists is on Fandom. I'm also a user on Miraheze which is a (free and no ads at all) and much better wiki hosting site than Fandom. All I'd like is for you to give Miraheze a chance and simply consider moving away from Fandom and transferring this wiki to Miraheze (it's really easy to do that). Please take just a few minutes to read and make up your mind. Many wikis have already moved from Fandom.

Thanks for hearing me out,


Disambig pages

When creating these, there's no need to add the "disambiguation" category. It's automatically added by the template. -- Sulfur (talk) 19:28, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I noticed the "duplicate category" notation on your edits earlier today. Good to know, thanks. -- Meacott (talk) 04:50, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Mavig and Mavig

I split the Mavig reference in The Way to Eden character list into Mavig (blonde) and Mavig (brunette) because both characters are identified with the name Mavig in different sources. As I explained in Forum:Character identity problems, having two Mavigs in the same episode is very unlikely, but the novelization and the autograph cards are both licensed sources, so I didn't feel comfortable accepting one and ignoring the other. But I'm not sure if this is the best solution to the problem. Since you participated in the Paul Bates discussion, I would like to have your opinion on the matter. --NetSpiker (talk) 11:01, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

It may not be ideal, but it makes sense and is a more informative naming than "Girl #1" for the blonde (on MA) and "Girl #2" for the brunette (first edition of the Compendium). I indexed Costumes: Five Decades of Fashion from the Final Frontier a couple of years ago and noted a reference to Mavig. I don't have that book any more, but it could provide another data point — it was probably a captioned photo of one of their costumes. -- Meacott (talk) 12:02, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. Unfortunately, that Costumes book isn't searchable on Google Books or --NetSpiker (talk) 12:14, 22 January 2022 (UTC)


Can you look at Gorgon (disambiguation) and take a look at the first two lines and figure out what's different between the two? -- Sulfur (talk) 23:14, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Ah, yes, they are both malevolent. I'll add some clarifying details to help with that, thanks. -- Meacott (talk) 02:42, 28 February 2022 (UTC)


You added Cabot (Ensign) to the Cabot disambiguation page. But there are no other incoming links to the ensign's article. Where does the ensign appear? -- Sulfur (talk) 13:42, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Cabot is from TNG episode: "Lessons". I've added the incoming link, thanks for alerting me! -- Meacott (talk) 15:03, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Need some advice

Hi Meacott

I'm planning to create a list of all Star Trek stories in roughly chronological order. When that's finished, I intend to expand the list with stories from universes that are connected to Star Trek like Doctor Who, Marvel and DC. I'm having trouble deciding which font size to use, so I would appreciate your opinion. Which of these do you think looks better? --Crossover Fan001 (talk) 01:34, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

  1. Star Trek: The Original Series - The Man Trap
  2. Star Trek: The Original Series - Charlie X
  3. Star Trek: The Original Series - Where No Man Has Gone Before
  4. Star Trek: The Original Series - The Naked Time
  5. Star Trek: The Original Series - The Enemy Within
  6. Star Trek: The Original Series - Mudd's Women
  1. Star Trek: The Original Series - The Man Trap
  2. Star Trek: The Original Series - Charlie X
  3. Star Trek: The Original Series - Where No Man Has Gone Before
  4. Star Trek: The Original Series - The Naked Time
  5. Star Trek: The Original Series - The Enemy Within
  6. Star Trek: The Original Series - Mudd's Women
I like the smaller size, but that's my impression when looking at six titles. Once the list is hundreds of titles long, my opinion might change, and so might yours. I wonder about using that color for the text, as that is this wiki's link color. Visitors to your talk page would naturally assume that since the list is on MB, and is colored that way, that the titles link to the appropriate MB pages. Also, as you add more titles, you might decide to change fonts sizes, or maybe color code by series, or add any number of improvements. If you proceed by hand-coding the colors and sizes for each story separately, then you'll find it very time consuming later to make a change.
I think as you go you'll discover a lot of inherent limitations to building this list on a wiki page. You may be a lot more satisfied with the results on an html page. On a wiki, no matter which one, you're constrained to use its preexisting font styles and colors, and to edit within the rules of the editors and preconceptions of the audience. On html, you are free to make it look however you want, with whatever fonts, font colors, and font sizes you like, and it's easy to change them if you think of something better. Take a look at Blogger, it's free and very easy to set up. --Meacott (talk) 11:32, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your detailed opinion. I chose to make the list on a wiki page because of the limitations, not in spite of them. It's very hard for me to decide between hundreds of fonts and dozens of font sizes. On Memory Beta there is only one font (Rubik) and only three sizes (small, regular and large), which makes it a lot easier. The decision to use the same color as Memory Beta's links is also deliberate. I've gotten used to Memory Beta's color scheme and making the list in any other color would look wrong to me. People will realize the titles are not links when they hover their mouse cursors over them, so I'm not worried about that. I don't intend to continue messing around with the font after I've already started the list as that would take away from my enjoyment. As for rules of the editors and preconceptions of the audience, I don't think there are any. It's on my own user page, so I can do what I want and Captainmike has already said it's okay. Thanks again for your advice. --Crossover Fan001 (talk) 13:16, 17 July 2022 (UTC)